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Summary
In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.
The remark elicited gasps from the audience.
Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.
He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.
Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.
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I still don’t think he realizes the tariffs he keeps threatening us with hurt his people way more…
By “his people,” you mean most voters, yeah.
But for high millionaires/billionaires, this is effectively a regressive tax that will benefit them.
Putin’s Sock Puppet taking orders from Moscow to divide the NATO members. For starters, the Canadians should stop buying US made weapons, because the current US leadership is unhinged and unreliable. If anything, the Blue States should become Canadian Provinces.
They don’t want us. As soon as NYS joins, NYC would dominate the votes, due to wild population differences.
Why wouldn’t Canada want any state to join our Confederation?
Guaranteed if that were to happen we would be switching to a proportional representation federal vote to fix large population differences.
So, Canada would “fix” it, by employing a system like the US has, that ensures a tyranny of the minority?
I’m going to keep posting this every time I see a reference to US tariffs against Canada.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/15/beauty-eh/
The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treaty in which Canada agreed to respect US copyright law in exchange for free trade. No free trade? Canada doesn’t need to respect US copyright any longer and can become a flourishing economy of products to compete with US products that are massively overpriced. Think printer ink and other stuff.
Sweet. Host all pirate sites in Canada.
Not pirated, works no longer covered by copyright in Canada.
Idk if it’s just for individuals, but our ISPs generally don’t care about pirating already. I use a VPN to pirate here but just set to another city in Canada. I only even do that because I run jellyfin and have terabytes of downloads a month.
Worst case scenario is the ISP sends you a notice that the media companies are mad, but that’s the end of it. They won’t pursue anything further because they don’t care
It’s not illegal to download something, it’s illegal to host something (seeding)
ISPs are compelled to notify you of copyright notices but they can’t hand your information over so you can only get caught if you respond
And even if you are dumb enough to respond to one of those emails, the liability is limited to something $50 per title. So it’s not worth the money to pay a lawyer to go after anyone. They will however try to trick you into a private settlement.
No no no, you must charge every user with willful commercial infringement and penalize them $250,000 per violation. It is the American way!
I was thinking to host pirate sites of US movies, software, etc. Get the US companies to tell the orange buffoon to behave or better yet, move the companies to Canada.
I really like the article’s reference to manufacturing US DMCA-breaking technologies and forcing devices to host app stores in Canada where the government can declare the 30% Apple tax illegal.
Yes, please, Canadian produced pharmaceuticals + 15% tariff = an order of magnitude cheaper than what we can buy in the States.
That’s why buying drugs across the border is specifically illegal. Can’t have us buying our medicine at a fair value.
The TL;DR is that tariffs would violate the NAFTA / USMCA treat
The treaty that Trump himself negotiated and agreed to.
That’s the treaty he is calling a “bad deal” and threatening to violate.
YES! Thanks for the reminder!
Trump just amended the USMCA on January 17 (takes effect on March 18, 2025)…
This went way over my head. IANAL.
That’s amazing. He’s going to absolutely tank the US economy in his first financial quarter of his term.
Yeah anyone mad at the US government right now should to take it out on the US corporations, not the citizens. Citizens can’t do much about this shitty administration until the next election but the corporations will have their feelings massively hurt every quarter if they don’t meet their profit expectations.
trump will listen to corporations far more than citizens.
Citizens could have done something about it in November. And almost half of them chose to sit on their hands.
Of the ones who actually voted, half of those actively voted for this shitshow.
Sorry to the few who tried to stop it, but the idiots that surround you have brought this on you.
We will try to aim most of our retaliation at the Redhatter morons, but some of you will likely get caught in the crossfire.
Please do whatever you can to fix your country’s shit, so we can get back to being friendly neighbours.
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Also, please try not to break any more of the firefighting equipment we loaned you (and sent even after agent orange started threatening us).
No, says Canada.
“Go fuck yourself” says Canada.
Just like our Danish friends recently told Trump.
And our Ukraniain friends said to the Russia warship.
“Surrender to my imperialism or I’m going to ruin your economy”
“Surrender to my imperialism or I’m going to ruin
yourmy economy”
The US consumers voted for Trump to lower the price of eggs.
The price of eggs is soaring today. Why? Because bird flu is killing chicken.
So what does Trump do? He cancels research on bird flu. Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.
And now this: aggression against allied nations that will result in more price hikes. More irony for the maga morons to enjoy.
It’s only been 4 days. It’s gonna be a long 4 years…
If he slaps massive tariffs, the prices will go through the roof. If USA annexes Canada, the prices should go down, and I guess that’s was the plan.
Been a while since Canadians burnt down the white house. Looking more and more like the Americans need another spanking to put them in their place.
At this rate, I think a few Americans might help.
Plot twist: USA ends up joining Canada. Oh, and the dairy prices go down as a result of trading flourishing inside a new vast nation.
Been a while since Canadians burnt down the white house
This time we should block the doors first.
Oldie but a goodie https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o7jlFZhprU4
Cause it’s working so well for Russia.
It’s working OK for Putin. Trump sees this.
Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.
Oh… You have some completely unrealistic faith on Humanity…
Of course they will miss the irony. And in 4 years, they will claim the constant 4 years of inflation on Biden.
Someone forgot their /s
You might have hit reply on the wrong comment
The stupid fucking idiots in the maga party will blame Biden.
The term ‘magat’ is just so on the nose, no matter how deep you go with the analogy.
A maggot is a mindless sack of flesh that wriggles and writhes all over itself and its neighbors, feeding on a constant diet of rot and decay. And if it survives that stage? It becomes a fly, attracted to steaming piles of shit, regurgitating the same diet that it feeds on just to consume it again, and then buzzing off to distract, annoy, and generally piss off the regular folk who are just trying to get on with their day.
Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.
Someone would have to explain the concept of irony to them first.
Did someone brainwash this dude to annex other countries or something? Its like he wants to leave a legacy behind of being the first president in the modern age to expand America.
He’s an agent provocateur hired by the Russkis whether he knows it or not.
The best puppet. Nobody takes a hand up the butt like me.
Well, his idol annexed and invaded other countries, so obviously he should too!
Canada if you’re listening, you should burn down the white house like it’s 1812
Just don’t burn Buffalo this time, we’ll help you!
We must strengthen NATO’s defences against the aggressive USA and significantly improve border defences, lest they catch us with our pants down when the time comes.
“could” raise prices for americans?
Media is complicit.
I’ve written to seven senators asking them to make an amendment to the relevant legislation to call it the “Trump inflation explosion act 2025”. Not really, but that’s what this is.
Being pedantic but generally table in American legislative use means to kill or remove from the floor indefinitely. You are using the British parlimentary use of table which could confuse legislators
Do Americans not have the phrase “everything’s on the table”? Or to “shelf something”?
Thanks. I’ve edited it.
Here’s the plan. The Northern US states all join Canada. The Southern Half of US states join Mexico. The US is gone. Canada & Mexico join to become 1 huge nation. (putin shits himself!) And then we deport ALL the conservatives out of North America, and live happily ever after. Problem solved. You’re Welcome.
Deport them to… Where? Space? I hope. Without oxygen.
Russia, duh!
Well, they need people to conscript…
There are places in the world where we can send them and they can’t hurt others. https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/749af21064e34f029bdd53946d9d941a
Yes that sounds good
Deport conservatives to Afghanistan. It’s a perfect match:
- very religious
- hate women
- love guns
- Libertarian paradise. Become a warlord!
- Don’t have to worry about immigrants.
Alternatively, there’s Russia. All those AR-15 lovers can get paid to go kill people!
Does this mean the cartels would advance north from mexico?
We should give them safe passage all the way past the bearing straight.
Inuit people wouldn’t appreciate that at all.
It can be a large under ground tunnel. With electric motorcycle service on rail… Directly to ruzzia and China. All local proceeded would go to the Inuit people. We could have little stopping points where stores could be setup.
Bering Strait*
Ball bearings… Sorry.
Based
Why the fuck is this asshole fighting with fucking Canada? Goddamn I can’t wait until he dies.
I want to piss on his grave. Seriously, they better have that shit locked down or at the top of a mausoleum or something. Otherwise, I want to try and make it a national pastime.
That’s the only feasible reason I can see to ever give my tourist money to the USA ever again.
I actually thought about this a while ago. Surely there are many hated people in the world, but some world leaders take the cake. I would pay to piss on Putin’s grave for example. So… Why isn’t there a business opportunity here? Buy the graveyard holding them, sell tickets to piss on Putin/Trump/Kimjong/Xi/whoever. You can make it into a holiday - 1000 euro for a weekend in a Moscow hotel, you visit the Kremlin, you piss on Putin’s grave, you go home with a shirt that says “I literally pissed on Putin and all I got was this lousy Polonium-engraved t-shirt”. I almost bought pissonputinsgrave.com when I thought about this, but I lack the funds to actually buy their graveyards.
Surely there’s something here for our society, right? We’re all tired of oppression at the hands of a few power-hungry old fucks and are just waiting for them to die so that we can finally release our common prostate. Or is it just me and you that would love the satisfaction of defiling the corpses of these cunt dictators?
If only Saddam and the other fuckface hadn’t been wasted like that! They just got removed, one sunk into the ocean, the other hung and buried. We…err…the world could have made millions, even to this very day. Like if you hung a drape and told people Saddam was on the other side, they would pay you good money to punch the drape for a chance to actually punch Saddam. But to make this more accessible and make more money efficiently, pee is the key! Its universally understood. It would be a huge 2 floor shrine. You create a transparent fishtanks musuleum on the first floor, and toss the evil in there. People park, pay the entrance fee (which includes a large drink), and they make a line to go see the assholes decomposing. In due time, they need to pee so they head upstairs where urinals and restrooms are all setup accordingly. Then all that flows down and pours over the evil before heading to the general drainage. Done? Head back down and you can pay extra for a remote controlled super soaker fed with pee that you can use to shoot the poop off with. You may pay extra for the 3rd floor which offers a direct line of sight opportunity for you to personally peen on the evil. Everyone would enjoy this! And we can keep tossing in more evil as they fuck up and find out. A few decades later we would have bones for sale by the piece at auction. All clearly marked so you know which evil you are peeing on. And all this would be perfectly sanitary and safe and good smelling. Good for the environment too if we treat the swage correctly.
I live in Germany but I’m more than willing to send a stool and urine Sample via overnight express to the USA as soon as this sack of human-goo and spray tan gets put in the ground.
I’ll make it a holiday. I’m going to have to remember that.
He thinks he’s doing that Art of the Dipshit “Anchoring” shit.
So many people are extremely missing the point here
Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good
“Wow Poilievre is standing up against Trump, I’m gonna vote for him!”
That’s the game plan, in reality the two dipshits are best buds and can collude together to fuck over both countries extra hard, after conservatives get a majority over here.
It’s a stunt to get conservatives in charge over here “against” Trump, which is so fucking stupid and yet it’s probably gonna work cuz so many people are gonna fall for it.
I don’t think the liberal party has a good play against it, other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television
I unironically think the Lincoln “I’ll fight you let’s go right now” leader who seriously fucks up Musk or Zuckerberg or any of those dipshits on live television would actually win by a landslide here
It’s fuckin stupid but that’s what works apparently…
The Conservative Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, is already doing that. I’ve heard his ads on the radio calling for Ontarioans to give him a majority government so he “can stand up to Trump”. The guy spent his time as Premier standing up to nurses and bike lanes. This new stand up against Trump shtick is just more faux populism.
the other side is not???
Sides. But try not to get caught up in the us vs them drama.
The key point is that Mr Ford is using populism to promote populism, with no actual history where he stands up to bullies as much as he stands up to caregivers and citizens; and populism is the schtick of his party and the national cons, but isn’t a common thread in other parties as they campaign on rights and consolidated services instead.
The centre to left is against it as much if not more than the conservatives. If anything, PP has been awfully silent on the whole thing. And don’t even look up how Danielle Smith (conservative premier of Alberta) is responding
Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good
This theory is predicated on 1) Trump remembering who PP is, 2) caring enough about who is running Canada to have it drive policy.
I don’t think either of these things are true.
They literally have meetings, and Trump obviously cares about conservatives willing to help him grift being in charge…
Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good
Except Polierve has been the slowest and the quietest to speak out against this bullshit that Trump is trying to pull.
He’s done the same with Putin
I don’t think the liberal party has a good play against it, other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television
Ahh, well that’s not good. Love him or hate him, I think one thing everyone could agree on about Trudeau is that he’d do pretty well in a politician boxing league.
Trudeau is out, we are voting in a new leader shortly
Hopefully they vote someone in who unironically would challenge dipshits to boxing matches
other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television
That would probably get me to vote liberal for the first time in my life
He’s looking for more bribes. ‘Pay me, or else.’
Is electoral reform still a policy of the liberal party. Will they Lucy football is away once the election is over again?
How does this lower the price of my god damn eggs?
Also he does know that Canada would be yet another blue state right?
Tariffs raise prices. That’s kinda their thing.
Each province/territory would insist on being its own state so Canada would at least probably become 10 blue states and 3 red states if not 11/2. Not sure how Manitoba would swing.
Not sure how Manitoba would swing.
Given that our current government is NDP after a disastrous period of the previous conservative government, I would expect Manitoba would generally vote to the left of most states.
So much political theater and me without my opera glasses
Cutting off trade with Canada would devastate the US economy overnight
