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If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class

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If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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    Oh so a first amendment violation as a law.

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      • errer@lemmy.world
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        You thoughtless person, where’s the disclaimer?! I dislocated a rib laughing at this

        • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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          Well, have you said thank you once?

          /s

          • frunch@lemmy.world
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            😭

          • AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works
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            pweese say tank you

          • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I would, but i don’t have the cards.

            • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world
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              You just activated my trap card!

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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          You’re right, where are my manners? Thanks for this wonderful gif.

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        Ahh JD’s true form!

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      It actually sounds sane, but no, won’t pass 1A muster in any court.

      https://old.lemmy.world/comment/16787464

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        The issue is whether that matters. Texas has always been a testbed for things like “can we just ignore the Constitution” and “can we just ignore court orders”.

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    1. The law applies only to office holders, candidates, campaigns, or to people who buy or sell political advertising.
    2. People and platforms who post and distribute content without exchanging money are exempted.
    3. All the big media firms: tv, radio, ISPs, Internet content platforms, and billboard operators are exempted when they just run someone else’s ads. The people who are liable are the ones who place the ads.
    4. The requirement is to include a disclosure message when depictions of a public figure have been altered by technology: Photoshop, AI, deepfake audio, or whatever else. The content itself is not censored, it just has to be noticed that it’s artificial.
    5. “Superficial” alterations are exempted from the notice message, for example, changing the color balance on a video.
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      What does this actually accomplish then?

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        Hard to say for sure, but probably more “fine print” style notices on TV ads and billboards.

        This could conceivably be used to prosecute dirty tricks-style campaigns. For example, many years ago there was an anonymous mailer campaign against the incumbent mayor in my city where a photograph of him was photoshopped to insinuate that had been beaten up, when he really hadn’t. That kind of thing might become the target of this if it becomes law.

        It’s also possible that federal courts will step in and carve out some exceptions for obviously fake parody stuff. Texas law cannot override the first amendment.

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        A chilling effect and job security for lawyers.

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        About as much as Trump trying to do a pushup 🤷

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      But will they face consequences?

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      Honestly sounds reasonable to me. But it would be nice if they could include deterring that over dramatic black-and-white effect lol.

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        It sounds reasonable to me, too, but given that it was passed by the Texas legislature, I’m certain there’s something nefarious about it. Texas politics is dirty tricks all the way down.

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    It irks me when rich people will just pay the fine rather than following the law. Example: Parking in handicap spots and not caring about a $250 fine. It is like paying $5 parking fee for low income drivers.

    Finland actually has speeding fines proportional to your income! In 2002, a Finnish millionaire was fined €103,000 (over $100,000 USD at the time) for going 75 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. (47mph in a 32mph zone)

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      Like the Tesla in New York City which has racked up $38,000 worth of parking tickets?

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      So if you are homeless, you can commit crimes for free?

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        Minimum sentencing.

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        If you are homeless, it costs almost nothing to park your Tesla in the handicapped space. Huge loophole.

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        Depends on the crime, but there have always been shit laws nobody enforces

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    Come at me bro!

    Putin Trump bareback

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      I can tell this is fake. Trump would have bigger moobs.

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        The horse would also have snapped in half.

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        “My moobs are the biggest, most beautiful moobs in the world. Skinny Joe Biden wishes he had moobs like mine.”

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          I hate what you did and I like you.

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        Putins nipple shines through. Just just copied Putin’s body.

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          I noticed that, too.

          Also Trump’s unsprayed face is too healthy looking.

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      This one time Nazguls tried to look like humans.

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    Damn, from democracy to lèse-majesté in 100 months days, congrats guys!

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      Days*

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        Oops, you’re right. 100 months will be the length of Trump’s second term.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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          Do you really think his body will hold out for that long?

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            Have you seen how long a Big Mac stays intact when left on a countertop?

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    I’ll say it until I’m dead: fines need to be calculated by income and net worth, increasing exponentially. The only way for a fine to act as a deterrent is for it to cost more relative to a person or company’s ability to pay it.

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    And so, the era of the illegal meme dealer has begun

    About time

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      Pssssst… Hey buddy. You looking for some memes? I got the good stuff…

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      shady guy opens trenchcoat

      “I got spicy, i got deep-fried, I’ve even got some rage comics if you’re old enough to remember em. $375 for a ½ gig, $700 for a full gig”

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    Disclaimer: Go fuck yourselves.

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    base fines on income as Finland does for traffic violations

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      The rich can always find ways around the law, including income-based fines. See the death of singer Kirsty McColl.

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        They can afford the best/worst lawyers

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      What does the average traffic violation set back the average person in Finland?

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        depends on their income

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          average

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          That’s not how averages work

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        Few hundred euros if you’re minimum wage, IIRC

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    For the filthy rich, the ONLY penalty is very often a fine, and it’s a very small one proportionate to the profit they made from the crime. It’s the cost of doing business.

    The filthy rich only do jail time if they bilked other filthy rich people out of their money.

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      Rich people are far less likely to do time, because “the companies I own are responsible for other people’s livelihoods, you’d be punishing them as well” is generally accepted by most courts of law as a valid reason not to jail them. If they were less short-sighted they’d be treating the fact that the person had power and responsibilities as an aggravating circumstance and giving them longer sentences…

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    Lol. Have fun trying to enforce that while real crimes are happening.

    Texas set to overtake Florida for America’s redheaded stepchild.

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      The trick is, they don’t really care about enforcing it - just having it as a potential charge to pursue when they hate someone.

      This just in: Breathing is illegal. They’ll only bother prosecuting critics of Trump though.

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      As always with these laws, they are a tool designed to be used selectively against someone you already decided you don’t like.

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    Holy shit I didn’t know he was part of a gang

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    “herp derp jerb creators deserve to be above the law!”

    What our robber barons have convinced many to most Americans to believe to spin their greed disease into being somehow noble, and what those robber barons unreflectively believe about themselves.

    There are developed nations, which we most certainly are not, that literally prorate vehicular fines as a percentage of income. We would never do that here, because this shithole, including tens of millions of self-hating, deluded fools, believe the person that exploits thousands of laborers for private profit deserves to risk your life doing 90 on main street on the basis of their successful exploitation.

    https://www.mic.com/articles/79039/the-untold-story-of-alice-walton-s-dwi-incident

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      The very definition of neo-liberalism: neo-feudalism. They can do whatever they want. Rules are for us, the serfs, not for them.

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    I thought that was some sort of weird cyberpunk monocle 🙀

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    Specific to the fine: unless it scales with net worth/income.

    Also, fuck Republicans.

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      I bet Trump has other people pay fines for him. “Take it out of the special Russian account.”

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