After some pretty grim shit for weeks on end this is some decent uplifting news.

My heart is broken for Palistine. While people were giving support day after day others were undermining them, lending support to a genocide.

Oh wow, you literally picked and chose.

Ha, that is not how it will go. Without Trump there will be no existential threat to american democracy to leverage and I’ll be surprised if the media does not go dark on it. When people, like yourself try to rally you’ll find half the support you depend on was only there because it was election time and the rest will be deaf ears because everyone else would like to go back to their normal lives.

Not saying it’s a good thing just the only thing keeping the discussion alive is how much it hurts the dems. It’s clearly an attack vector that had been amplified and you thinking your moral stance is what props it up is hubris.

That’s just the evil abroad. Trump welcomes evil right here at home.

I see your getting down votes. This crowd doesn’t like to be called out. Americans are sheep. We buy what we are told to buy; we eat what we are told to eat; we believe what we are told to believe but this isn’t unique to America. We definitely do need to do better in our politics. It’s evident every day when there is an unnaturally orange man on the TV and there isn’t a line of Karen’s sitting in front of every courthouse asking to speak to a manager.

Anyway…

I’ve said it before. Misinformation exsits in all information. You will be hard pressed to find any common distributor of information to not have any errors. The thought that you can simply be fed only truth with out having to think critically is a fallacy. You can blame the media for existing but you can’t make it not exist. It’s people, who have principles, ignoring those principles because we’ve allowed that to be acceptable behavior in the states.

Stop asking, “can you believe trump did this thing.” Start asking, “would you do this thing that trump did.” Don’t waste your time on petty shit. Stick with the obscene shit. “Would you grab a woman by the pussy?” “Would you sexually assault a woman.” “Would you call immigrants animals?”

Their only response will be, that’s not true, and right there they have nothing to do but refute reality. A shared reality is the most basic principle of having society and them ignoring what we can see with our eyes and hear with our ears is not them having a different set of facts. It’s pure fantasy. It’s antisocial behavior, and tell them that.

And God said it should be painful! That’s what you get for wanting to know stuff!

Can’t wait for Putins youtube. He’s got some killer tips on how to pick up women.

To fight another day. If every passionate soul bound themselves to another rather then fizzling out or going up flames then we could become many.

The older I get the more impatient I get with stupid tasks that take longer then they should. I simplify my life by focusing on the task ahead of me. Knowing these small tasks compound into the final goal.

So when I am looking through 17 different folders for a file I can’t remember what I saved it as and I’m sorting by date and opening things frantically…

‘it’s been 20 fucking minutes, should I just take the rest of the day to organize my shit? But if I get this fucking thing done I can setup a meeting on this today and fit it in this week before Juan goes on vacation and I have to wait two weeks to place an order that will take 6 months to deliver.’

‘Fuuuuuuuuu where the fuck is this file, I’ll just start from scratch and I’ll be done by 2pm just in time for it to go on the calender so everyone can seee. Or maybe i just look another 15 minutes wheeerreeeee the fuckkkk did I save this?!?!’

'Bullshit bullshit bullshit!"

Google: how to find file.

Google: how to find file just working on.

Google: how to find excel file by date, most recent.

Google: file not in recent, why come?

Google: did I dream this nightmare wake me, wake me, wake me.’

Not the US population. They would never be taken by an obvious lier with zero scruples to speak of. They are way too disciplined to for that.

I remember when my dad use to always try to get me to look at this site that listed all of the lies Obama ever told. Watching his unwavering support for trump I try now to understand what that was all about. He obviously doesn’t care about politicians lying. Outside of the racism I think it was just an attempt to radicalize me knowing he just wanted Republicans in power. If there was legitimate moral concern there I wish I could tap into it now.

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I don’t see how this disproves either assertion

Can’t both of you be right? I don’t see how either argument dissuades the other.

That’s why in January we don’t dissipated even if Harris wins. 2028 should entail a full primary season no matter how she does. Yes, I want to go back to my normal life after the election but fascism isn’t just going to take a break.

What US did at Abu Ghraib was fucked up beyond belief. Isreal doing it is insane. How will these people ever re-enter society without being forever slighted by Isreal? People are disgusting.

I’m telling you we have made our interests clear. Short of everyone waking up tomorrow ready to change their entire life style there isn’t anything else the individual can do. We are speaking out. We are limiting our consumption. We are asking for green policies. The climate won’t wait for unification. In order for individuals to act as one they need catalyst and if climate change is already here then it’s already too late.

That is only the illusion of choice. If tomorrow I went full off the grid and before I left I told everyone to do the same, nothing would happen. Nothing would change. The lever pullers have the power to force change and they refuse to. One person can be conscious enough to speak out and they have (see Greta) but with individuals who have no choice but to participate for survival they are not the problem.

It’s a fine line. You don’t want to feed the troll and get yourself frustrated. It may be helpful to rebutt the poster but you should only do it if you can be perfectly infomative and concise. The more you argue with the poster the more onlookers might think both have valid arguments. Most people who are as divisive as seen in the OP have no problem arguing in bad faith. They will move goal post so frequently if you try to defend on all fronts you’ll look like you’re being tossed around.

Point being, general advise, ignore them. More specifically, it’s OK to rebutt them but don’t expect any reflection on their part.

I’d guess they are fully conscious of what they are doing and will happily push America over a cliff for their own sick satification. Ignore them, they are no better then the christo-fascists.