Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Monday said she’s “done” with the Republican Party, which she said has turned into the “America LAST” party.
Her comments came after right-wing commentator and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said he was done with the party after voting Republican his entire life.
Still a despicable human being
How many times has she “quit” at this point?
Another redcoat slipping into a blue sweater.
Golly, I remember a time when she was flinging poo at a democrat president giving a speech.
So… is putin still writing her lines?
They’re not putting on blue. And they talk a good game but they’ll vote R over D every time.
No shit dumbfucks… every sane person in the world has been saying this since probably around the Reagan administration… and the warning ALL THIS BULLSHIT WOULD HAPPEN after the pedophiles first disaster…
You broke it, you fix it.
And they’re still just looking to blame trump, not the party. Pretending that he changed the party. Not that he changed for the party. Which makes this even more of an insulting stand to take now
And let’s be real, they 100% still believe in the type of ideology that created the whole fucking problem in the first place.
They’re probably positioning themselves to jump on the next iteration of MAGA once this one has run its course.
The people behind it, they never change and they won’t go away, this is a disease that won’t be cured with rest and lemon tea.
It’s just like the end of W’s presidency when everyone on the right was pissed off about what he did in Iraq and to the economy, then they proceeded to double-down on the nationalism, racism, and religious intolerance that made the GOP so popular with reactionaries.
It’s a fundamental problem with their ideology, but they are so driven by their hatred and tuned up by the far-right media that they just keep digging that hole deeper. Ultimately, the ultra-wealthy know that fueling the fire of fascist rhetoric is a sure fire way of getting the brainwashed rubes to fight their class war for them.
Is MTG going to stop promoting the Great Replacement conspiracy theory? Absolutely not; in fact, I bet she leans even harder into it.
It’s just like the end of W’s presidency when everyone on the right was pissed off about what he did in Iraq and to the economy, then they proceeded to double-down on the nationalism, racism, and religious intolerance that made the GOP so popular with reactionaries.
Yep. They may have scraped those W stickers off their cars, but then joined up with the teabagger movement, and then a little bit later the birther movement, and then shortly after that, they went BALLS DEEP on Donvict, and were/are ecstatic about it.
These were all the same people in my life, not a new set of voters that left the party and never came back - all of them were dejected at the end of W’s failed terms. All of them are now Donvict fans. I watched many go through that exact cycle, in my personal life.
My favorite thing from them, though? When they blame their worst behaviors on Obama. They don’t realize how much they are telling on themselves. Yes, WE KNOW that them becoming even more overtly worse than before is of course a reaction to the black guy being in office.
In their minds, every problem is caused by someone else, and they are never to blame, even if they wholeheartedly support those causing the problems, pass legislation to enable those to blame, and are integrally involved in causing the harm for which they later complain. It is cultural narcissism on a grand scale.
Yes, this. The Republicans created Faux News and hate radio and the various websites spinning the same hate, and then along came Donvict, about 20 years later after the start of Faux News, and he is the almost literal manifestation of all that work.
He sounds exactly like Faux News. He rules like the average Faux News viewer would want a President to rule. Hell, he has put people from Faux News on his cabinet.
But when Republicans and conservatives (current, as well as former) want to pretend as if Donvict came along and ruined everything and changed the party and they had no idea how any of this happened, and Donvict is No True Conservative?
BULL FUCKING SHIT.
Faux News == Republican Party == conservative == Trump.
Like with so much of the American reactionary right, the MTG line is forever “They weren’t conservative enough”.
And Dems will go chasing the MTG vote to the tune of a billion dollars in ad buys during the next election cycle, while whining that leftists never vote for them.
Maybe her and Tucker can form a new party and split the conservative vote and send all of them into the wilderness for decades.
They are all so fucking crazy. It’s not at all surprising they have a difference of opinion over doctrinal issues. First of all, most of the shit the cons say they care about, they do not really care about: small government, freedom, liberty, the Constitution, non-interventionism, free markets, etc…what really motivates much of the conservative “movement” is about racism.
So when someone like Donvict steps out of line on something like tariffs and attacking Iran, it’s not surprising some peel off, while others stay, because as long as the important kernel of conservatism is there - which is the racism (xtian nationalism) - many will stay. But Tucker and MTG also have the important kernel of xtian nationalism, too…so what is a conservative to do, LOL?
Given their RWA (right wing authoritarian) character flaws, most RWAs will tend to line up behind someone deemed to be a “strong leader”, so that’s the dangerous thing.
But if there are two prominent right wing conservative parties (The Republican Party, and The Teabagger 2.0 Party under Tucker and Marge) with two cult of personalities leading them, hopefully they’d split all the RWAs for a while.
She still touts ivermectin as a treatment for various ailments, so let’s not get too carried away with the idea that she has seen the light.
So much this. Her and Tucker are still wildly dangerous in their beliefs. Just because they cannot get along with Donvict and the way the conservatives have tied themselves so closely to the terrorism of Israel’s doesn’t mean they are not very, very bad for this country.
MTG for President! Everybody! C’mon! Let me hear you!
Oh hold on a second. MTG for RBF!
She helped create the problem, she can fuck herself.
Nah I’m all for the converts. They’re very useful in persuading others. It’s a wasted opportunity to just burn them and in essence tell anyone that they will be punished for changing their minds.
Ohhhhhhhmygod, this is such a very important point that gets so lost on the terminally online crowd. The political opportunity of such a high profile member of a major party leaving said party is insane. You would have to be all the way outside your mind to not take the opportunity to poke the cracks forming in the two party system. MTG bad, yep, not disagreeing, but it would be just straight stupid to not pick this up as a way to get more conservatives to start questioning the republican party and in turn the two party system as a whole.
It would be stupid, a lot of people are . . .well maybe not fully stupid but deeply blinded by their emotions. Unfortunately politics has evolved into like religion2.0, infidels are to be slaughtered, and anyone who doubts anything whatsoever is to be crucified. I remember when it wasn’t like this, when there wasn’t this intense pressure about switching parties. Of course it always existed to some degree, but from what I’ve seen and what I know it’s been ramping up the past decade or two.
We elected a black man and it broke the brain of every conservative in America. That’s why it’s seemed to ramp up over the last two decades.
Definitely part of it but I think it’s deeper than that. Let me put on my paranoid hat real quick. A ramp up of division is useful to the rich and powerful, particularly if it turns into a culture war, which of course it has.
Calm down Kamala.
Yeah, I’m for converts, but not MTG. You don’t get to come back from “Jewish space lasers started the forest fires”. Every day people, sure. But she was an instrumental part of putting the bitch in office a second time. She doesn’t get a pass now that she’s conveniently “reformed” after leaving her position of power.
I agree. Splitting the GOP into Nazis and “I just want to fuck over brown people” is actually going to be great for them not being able to get a vote majority in our broken electoral system.
Also sometimes they switch completely, personally if someone wants to improve, if only a little I try to encourage it. If immediately they’re met with hostility for improving then the only sensible direction for them to go is back. At the end of the day and as you pointed out in your comment, it’s a numbers game. You can try to divide and conquer and also recruit. Defectors / converts are extremely useful at convincing more to convert which definitely won’t happen if at the front door we’re telling them to fuck off and suck a bag of dicks. So if people go against their poor judgements I’m all for it, one step closer to waking up, switching sides and adding to the numbers.
Fuck yeah, you’re on a goddamn roll. The best way to fight your enemies is to turn them into friends. The best way to fight racists is to get them to no longer be racist. Best way to fight nazis is to get them to not be a nazi. Etc. If you don’t give them any opportunity to reform, then why the fuck would you expect them to change??? Normalize the fuck out of the above attitude.
It’s all pretty well outlined in the art of war and the 48 laws of power but as I like to put it, the war is never over until your enemy becomes your friend.
On the other hand it teaches them that there are no consequences for their actions. And sure, if it’s about a personal acquaintance going through issues I’m all for it but we are not talking about people looking to change their ways- they’re still the same bigoted fascists that they were before, they’re just shopping around for another Klan chapter to join because this one didn’t pay well enough. That’s not people you want to associate with, I’m getting Coriolanus vibes. Careful who you bring into your fold.
I’m more so after the people she will influence. If it’s signaled to them that changing their views is a bad idea then they are less likely to. Also I’m not looking for miracles, cracks and division in the party are also useful.
There have absolutely been consequences for their actions. Its just that people dont get “what they deserve” they just get what they get. The universe doesnt balance automatically for your idea of morals. Us humans are special cause we can enact consequences that the universe didnt. Hopefully we get there for them but that will be on those that can when we can. This isnt the time for getting lost to it.
But she’s not a convert. She continued voting with her party, but is leaving office. Her actions and rebranding are in order to transition to the talk show circuit. If offered the more money elsewhere, she will become a malignant force once again.
She’s an opportunist, not reformed. An opportunist with a microphone and a pension.
If you can’t get a convert you can get someone who will create division. Not as good, but still worthwhile. Individuals play their parts and then leave, the truth is nearly everyone is playing to their own self interest so that should always be expected. Acts of wellbeing or charity typically come when someone is already fed and taken care of. I can’t say anything about what will be but what is there now is still useful. Also I am speaking somewhat about her case and more so generally.
I’m seeing less chink in the armor and more a false quisling or a fox in the henhouse. I give it 2 months before she starts peppering in careful dissent to pull people to the right.
Between her and Carlson, they’re setting the stage for a party split. It’s yet to be seen which faction will contain the most lunatics.
I hope they form another party - let’s call it the Teabagger Party.
The Teabagger Party can be like the Reform Party, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party and draw away votes from the Republicans. In this case, they might have a bit more star power than some of those other crank parties and help split the vote of Republicans enough to radically weaken their stranglehold on the country I love.
Must be new to this game, every side has kooks and crazies, they’re useful. Of course the right has swung pretty hard into that camp lately. Really driving their christo-facist state, but it backfired when they ditched their isolationist stance and of course blatantly disregarded the poor in their camp. We should keep accurate receipts about the affects of the Big Beautiful Bill to drive it home that their party is the anti-middle class party, the bourgeoisie party. Shit would be wide open to whoever can bring down the cost of living.
You don’t know me.
Would be cool if we were like unknowingly long life friends or family members. Would make that comment really funny. Anyways, odds are I don’t know you irl.
This is more infighting than conversion.
Yeah but generally any movement away I encourage. Maybe they don’t fully switch parties but still aids almost as well. Immediately reacting to any change of heart with hostility might decrease the division or prevent people from fully switching. I say give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched.
I was just being pedantic. Certainly we should all encourage the split, but I wouldn’t count on any of them becoming allies anytime soon.
I’ve seen it happen on a personal level and seen individuals go the other way.
Nah. There are certain people that dont get a pass. I wouldnt piss on her if she was on fire and she gets no points for being the same self-serving rat she’s always been.
Anyone that followers her away from this administration will likely follow her down whatever terrible thing she backs next.
Not to say I dislike justice but I’m a hippie, the one people one love, unconditional love, hope, and forgiveness as best I can manage type. I get where you’re coming from, I wasn’t always this way, used to be a pretty angry fellow. For me I’m more so sad to see minds and hearts that are so deep into ignorance that they cause needless and avoidable suffering to themselves and others. I like to see minds become aware because they stop causing needless and avoidable suffering. Of course that process of becoming aware can be quite hellish at times, which is why most don’t bother. To me if it can be managed it’s the ultimate punishment because on the other side you get a person who wants to decrease needless and avoidable suffering.
I also wouldnt really want to help put her out if she was on fire. But if she grabs a fire extinguisher and starts helping put out the raging world ending fire… I won’t tell her to stop or push her away until it is out.
At least we know what she is doing for now
The thing is that what she is doing is holding up a prop fire extinguisher, to get a photo in the news. She still thinks and wants the same awful things.
Yeah? What has she been wanting?
Do you remember who she was and the causes she championed during her stint in office? That, minus trump or GOP. She remains the jewish space lasers lady.
Oh I was just asking cause you seemed like you had something more recent.
For sure. But im a soft hearted man and if I give her an inch I’ll start to forget the miles bullshit she helped march us through to get here. The best I can do is silence, but when someone starts giving people like her any credit I get livid.
I believe that we can agree on somethings and disagree on others but still work together. MTG is not one of those people and I count myself lucky that I’m not in politics because I would pull my hair out with all the stone walling and theater that people like her have done over the last 3 decades.
There is no decorum or forgiveness for career politicians. I can count on one hand the ones I would trust enough to vote for again in any election.
I have a thought for how much a trust any politician.
And its that if they hear the government is full of corruption and back alley deals of no work or hard work and is excited about joining.Well then they probably arent going to do much to actually make it better for me, compared to what they are thinking about for themself.
But hey, eventually got to do something about it and even if that means finding someone who doesnt want to burn alive even if it is selfish cause at least they might help.
How is it that the most extreme mouth piece changed their tune, but the middle chucklefucks didn’t?
It’s because Greene actually drank the kool-aid, and has now found out what’s in it, whereas most of the others only pretend to like it.
I think those who dont truly believe but follow anyway are more vile than those who were duped
Well, there are also those who truly believe and like the Kool-Aid, the really committed white supremacists such as Stephen Miller and Elon Musk. They probably win the evilness contest.
They are the ones making the Kool aid
Yeah, but they are absolutely wasted on their own supply.
It’s like the member of the group that just now realized they were getting made fun of the whole time.
A big part of why the republican party has been so successful politically is their unwavering unconditional loyalty to the party. They can make waves politically with a smaller amount of people as long as they stay united. It’s basically mostly just political strategy. It’s also why this is a huge fucking deal. We can use this to start putting more pressure on the republican party and making that strategy less viable.
Some people think jumping ship in frigid waters will save them somehow, when there’s no search and rescue looking for them… while other’s are wise to just go down with the ship anyway… at least they feel like they’re not alone.
they think they can still make money and gain power through their connection to him, maybe?
You run to the right to wing the primary and waddle back to the center when you’ve got control. Because the center is where all the money’s at. The fringe is just people spun up hard enough to show up at convensions, scream at people during board meetings, and then stomp through oppressive heat and knock doors until nightfall for weeks at a time to scream “They’re destroying America!” at anyone who answers the door.
You broke it, you fix it.
Why is this news? She’s not even a representative anymore
She still has a political following. It also shows the breaking of Republican solidarity on the right.
IMO she is a MAGA true believer. And Trump and the GOP keep doing things that do not MAGA. She is still terrible just realising that Trump isn’t actually about MAGA.
It’s not either America first or last, it really is America alone.
Just watch the G7 pictures, it’s very clear that nobody really want to talk to Trump.
Why would anybody talk to him? They’re supposed to talk about global politics and he doesn’t know a thing about it. Plus he smells.
His posture always motivates me to straighten my back. Half a step short of kyphosis
Thanks, learned a new word today. 😀
The Dems will choose her as their candidate before letting any of the Squad get close to power.
Good. The Democratic Party should be the right wing party and another party should form on the left.
Kinda funny how this guy was a narcissistic scammer his entire life and people were like “I trust him”.
