• saltesc@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Don’t get cocky, everyone. Remember nuclear warfare has been flirted with.

    I don’t think there’s much that can be done for Russia using nuclear missiles on their own territory and that would be why Ukraine’s in an area of value, protecting them from that happening. They won’t be controlling territory much larger while an Su-35 with a nuclear loadout is waiting for them to stray enough kilometres away from the critical infrastructure.

    Consider it a siege attempt on resource, not a counter attack for territory.

    Edit: Holy shit. I’m clearly referring to the tactical nukes. How did y’all forget that, gloss over the rest of the comment, and go straight to silo level atomic bombs decimating the region and spreading fallout across EU? Fucking hell, this place some times…

    Edit Edit: See?

    Putin mouthpiece says Kremlin wants to NUKE own country as rattled Vlad reels from blitz into Russia, claims Ukraine)

    Escalating Russian Tactical Nuclear Drills Now Include Forces Involved in Ukraine War

    Brains. Use them. What kind of nuke did people think an SU-35 could even carry?

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      3 months ago

      Nuclear bombs would have fallout that blows across Europe.

      Ukraine doesn’t need to defend any territory it has taken, it just needs to be a constant thorn in Russia’s side.

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        3 months ago

        Also, some countries have stated that they would consider fallout blowing into their country as a trigger to invoke NATO Article 5.

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      3 months ago

      I don’t think there’s much that can be done for Russia using nuclear missiles on their own territory

      It’s a great way for Russia to instantly lose the war. How fast do you think the EU gets involved when they have radiation on their borders?

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        3 months ago

        I believe, and my memory in this is a little hazy, that Poland already said they’d trigger article 5 if they got screwed with radiation so I suppose the answer to your question is either

        1. Approximately 0.3 seconds later or
        2. Depends on the prevailing winds
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      3 months ago

      Copied from my other reply to a similar message:

      Their nukes probably aren’t even operational. They weren’t maintaining their other equipment, so odds are they aren’t maintaining the nukes, which if they use they already lost, so are effectively worthless except as a threat.

      Assuming their nukes work, they can’t nuke Ukraine. The reason why nukes aren’t used is because the damage is uncontrollable. The fallout would effect large portions of Russia too. Think about how much the Chernobyl event effected Russia, and it wasn’t a weapon. If Ukraine is nuked then they damage themselves as well as all surrounding nations, which would bring NATO into the fight. If they can’t beat Ukraine they sure as hell don’t stand a chance against NATO.

      Basically, the nuke threat is a bluff. Stop worrying about it and stop spreading their propaganda. Spreading fear of nukes is spreading Russia’s message. Please use your brain and stop fearing it. It’s not worth considering.