• Fmstrat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 days ago

    The attacker’s inexperience was also evident in his operational security failures. At one point he asked Claude to help edit his resume, which contained his full name, location, education history, and LinkedIn profile.

    Later, while investigating a potential compromise of one of his own hosts, he inadvertently confirmed his home IP address to the agent. Based on this and other corroborating evidence, the researchers believe the attacker to be a young man based in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

    Wow.

  • wewbull@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    My takeaway from stories like this is that it was always really easy to crack in to companies, but most knowledgeable people had better things to do.

    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      My feeling is companies leave themselves open by allowing everyone access to the network so the idiot who has been told 50 times not to click on a link in a suspicious email will still do it or hand out passwords to anyone on the phone. Even if you run a tight ship you’ll give access to some contractor who doesn’t.

      • Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 days ago

        A poor IT department is working overtime with limited funds for staff trying to fix stuff while bosses breathing down their necks.

    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      And no-skilled attackers can buy exploits.

      Claude helping is insignificant to the story.

      The real headline should be:

      At least 14 companies’ IT security is practically non-existent

      • eldebryn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        It is significant because a random teenager can’t google “download exploits” and have them available 5mins later.

        Powerful AI models and agents though are on your fingertips without you even asking.

        Sure, people can buy guns. But what if every person could materialize a chainsaw instead regardless of their skill, maturity, age, or criminal record? 🤔

        • 0x0@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          Teenagers are definitely able to find exploits via google in 5 if they’re motivated.

          Buying a disassembled ak-47 on post order and having it shipped to your address anywhere in the world is also possible.

          Rules only apply to people that care about them.

    • zane@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      As someone who works in security, llms just make security happen or not happen faster.

      • blargh513@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        I also work in security.

        My company (which can damn well afford the costs) 100% REFUSES to leverage AI in any meaningful fashion. The CISO himself wrote the most braindead email to the CIO saying basically that AI isn’t a threat and then showed it to the rest of us like he’s proud of it.

        I tried to push some adoption of AI based tools to help detect our own weaknesses and do some basic cleanup work. Nope. Stonewalled. I argued that every attacker is stealing accounts and burning tokens to tear us to shreds using every possible tools they can steal or even buy. We use Copilot.

        Blank stares and crickets. We just keep managing our shit in spreadsheets that some dumbass emails as attachments and wonders why everyone has a different version of some useless thing.

        At least they’re paying me well. When they collapse in a little while, I suppose I won’t be too surprised.

    • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 days ago

      Didn’t think I’d ever side with no script kiddie but at this point fuck it.
      If your company can’t be bothered to do the bare minimum in security then yeah I hope the least skilled hacker ever comes along and wrecks it.

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        Thing is, with the latest frontier models, the least skilled person can find a crack in the most secure company around, as long as they can string a few sentences together.

        It isn’t about “bare minimum” anymore. All it takes is a single lapse in vigilance from a single employee, and they’re in… and the LLM doesn’t have to pause to figure out what to do next.

          • Mika@piefed.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            some hacker unleashes malicious AIs to the internet, breaking it apart cause AI keeps finding vulnerabilities in everything and break things faster than humans can fix

            corporates build corporate internet and the blackwall, which is AI to fight malicious AIs

            Gooooood morning Night City!

    • Pennomi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 days ago

      Only for a year or so. Any company still vulnerable after these tools have been out long enough deserve it.

      • Andrew Beveridge@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 days ago

        Most people on lemmy seem to condemn use of LLMs in any way for anything, I wonder what those folks opinion of this stance is - should companies use the tools or not?

        • DeadDigger@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          3 days ago

          Well the problem is that for example curl got flooded with generated security reports where only 5% had some true security potential. So your llm will basically flood you with false positives

          • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            3 days ago

            If 5% of the reports are genuine security vulnerabilities that they wouldn’t have found otherwise, that’s looking like a big win to me, not sure how you see it differently.

            • frongt@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              3 days ago

              The problem is identifying which 5%. Nobody wants to filter that much AI slop.

              • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                3 days ago

                If you’re working for a company’s cybersec, that’s your job. And a much preferable one to waiting for an attacker to do it for you.

                • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  If you’re submitting a vulnerability to a public repo, that’s also your job. These slop reports that are wasting maintainers time should never have been reported. The person tasking the LLM is out of their depth and can’t be the human in the loop that verifies the vulnerability report before submitting because they don’t have the required knowledge to do that. It’s a shame, because if people who had the requisite knowledge were the ones submitting, the ratio of valid reports to noise would be way higher than 5% and open source maintainers wouldn’t be feeling burned the fuck out.

                • frongt@lemmy.zip
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Sure, but nobody wants to do that, even at fair pay. Unpaid open source volunteer projects REALLY don’t want to do that, and risk burning out what is typically a solo main dev.

        • village604@adultswim.fan
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          3 days ago

          Cybersecurity is actually one of the few fields that can benefit from AI. There are companies like Horizon3 who are using it alongside their other threat models to do continuous pen testing.

          • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            3 days ago

            Gonna take a guess here that what is used in cybersecurity is not LLMs but one of the more useful machine learning applications. Just a nitpick cause today “ai” and “LLM” are sadly synonymous.

            • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              3 days ago

              No, LLMs can definitely be useful for cyber too. It’s the whole reason the US government banned Claude Fable for export.

              An LLM can not just try existing exploits like a script kiddy, but with iteration it can try variations and if you know what runs on the server, inspect the source for potential exploits.

              They can also look at your setup and say what issues they see (reverse proxy config, etc).

              Doesn’t replace an expert, but can be useful for a first pass before you get the highly paid people involved.

                • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  I do. I reverse engineered some proprietary software using an agent. A pro could’ve maybe done it faster, but I did it AFK with little knowledge about reverse engineering.

                  An agent could similarly try tons of attacks against online targets. Fairly sure some are doing it.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    I would love to see the term ‘low-skilled’ used more often within the context of LLM’s and the manner in which people use them.

  • hayvan@piefed.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Alternative title: the ubiquitous race for cheapest developers and fastest time to maket leaves everything insecure.

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Bad look for Claude after their vigorous insistence their model can’t be used this way.

    Also bad look for the 50 people I get in my inbox telling me AI is completely useless every time I talk about it. These arguments were worthy of entertainment a few years ago but not in 2026.

    • richmondez@lemdro.id
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 days ago

      AI (specifically LLM) isn’t unless unless you need it to be accurate. You don’t need to be accurate to find software vulnerabilities for example, you just need to be able to sift enough of the false positives to be able to identify the real bugs for example.

      LLMs are over hyped and being given away below the cost of training and running the models in the hope of getting entrenched then ramping up the costs though.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Fair I agree it’s overhyped. But to be honest the amount I think it’s overhyped continues to decline as its capabilities continue to advance. And we’re at a point now where it is clearly useful for many tasks, even if it’s not appropriate for everything.

  • rayyy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    Wait until someone more skilled hacks the nuclear codes using AI and launches a few at US cities.