How about if they lift sanctions and so fund the russian war effort?

Moray East wind farm desperately needs this. I’m forever seeing that wind farm have to curtail it’s output because they can’t get the power to where it’s needed.

Personally I’d give them a fixed timescale to stop production. Your don’t pull the plug tomorrow. You just say when the plug will be pulled.

The world will pivot.

Plastics need a minimal amount of oil compared to what’s burnt for fuel.

Arm isn’t even owned by Brits anymore. SoftBank has a majority holding in them (Japan)

Oh you sweet summer-child.

I was only responding to that single quote from the article. Not the overall topic.

Arguing about names is pointless.

However the deal doesn’t contain security guarantees, which Zelensky was complaining about.

Well exactly. Tech is about the only thing I can think of boycotting. I can certainly do services with little harm, but hardware is difficult.

Which is why I excluded technology.

…because it is the same argument. It’s equity Vs equality.

If he’s the same Maori politician I’ve seen speaking on such subjects before, he doesn’t want Maoris to be treated with special privileges. He wants all people to be treated equally.

Seems fair enough to me.

Yes. Yes you can.

Ignore it. Move on.

I’m trying to think, apart from technology, what do I buy from American brands?

• American food doesn’t really come here except fast food franchises which I don’t frequent anyway.
• Nobody has an American car.
• My car’s electric anyway, so no American oil companies fueling it.
• Clothes are probably all from Asia anyway.
• I don’t subscribe to any streaming services.
• I’ll order 5 or 6 things from Amazon a year. So that’s easy to stop.

Sure there might be the odd brand that is unknowingly American, but I’m left asking “What does America export?” because I can’t think of much in my life.

Russia is financially screwed. The oil and gas industry there is crippled. Minimal funds are entering the country and the war machine has forced manufacturing companies to make weapons with bank loans they didn’t want to take and the banks didn’t want to make.

The government is broke. The banks are broke. Industry is broke. All to feed the military. This is very much a war of attrition but it money not troops.

I doubt Trump will be alive when those fabs come online. It takes years. In the meantime he’ll place tariffs on technology imports without having the alternative domestic production.

I’m still at a loss what Ukraine would get out of this deal. It’s not weapons

That’s desperate.

I’d be surprised if the new leadership will be at all interested.

Yes, but it’s a desperate kamikaze act.

World Police?