• SecretiveVault@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    No they won’t. They’ll protect them and post some dramatic tweets about how horrible they are. Centrist Democrats won’t do jack shit. They’re weak and in on the grift.

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    If we are able to get our country back in 2028 whoever the president is then needs to use every bit of their power to arrest and prosecute every single person who went along with Donny’s agenda. If not we will do this all over again, but stupider and worse.

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        Not necessarily. There will still be options for most of them, if we have the political will to play HARD BALL.

        Also, it’s important to remember that these people are literally career criminals. They don’t know how to operate legally. Now that we know who they are and what they are up to, we will just prosecute them harshly for their future crimes - and there will be future crimes, they can’t help it.

        We just have to hound them for their entire lives. And their families. And their businesses. And their neighbors. Make everyone they know regret their association.

        Make them American Pariahs. We could create an actual official list of Wanted Pardoned MAGA Criminals, and if any actionable criminal activity by these specific things individuals is uncovered, there is additional bonus rewards for reporting them. Encourage people to monitor them CLOSELY in every aspect of their lives.

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        No, like the NEXT time, when we will prosecute and imprison them ruthlessly and mercilessly, and any Democrat that resists will be investigated, prosecuted, and imprisoned as well. Treason will no longer be tolerated by ANYONE.

        You work for US! Do your jobs, or else!

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      And the entirety of the Joe Biden administration for the genocide in Gaza, and the entirety of the Bush administration for the illegal wars, and the entirety of the Obama administration for the illegal drone strikes, and the entirety of the…

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      Ever shoot clay pigeons? do you think we could build a clay pidgeon launcher that could shoot a pedo human? Just a physics question.

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          I was looking for a low and slow trajectory, but I suppose we can use a catapult coupled with an AI targetting app for the trap shooting. AI can finally be good for something. The cost of the RAM for the terminal to make the AI call will be the real hurdle.

  • FE80@lemmy.world
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    You would have to be a moron to believe Democrats will hold Republicans responsible for anything.

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      If the Dems don’t hold MAGA responsible for their many CRIMES, it’s YOUR fault.

      Mamdani recently said:

      “For far too long our party has seen its job as managing decline instead of delivering material change for working people. It has seen its job as explaining why we cannot instead of showing how we can.”

      YOU are part of “managing decline,” either out of cowardice, or by design.

      Politicians are generally lazy and greedy, and if you tell them that you expect nothing from them, give them permission to do nothing, and tell them that we’ll do nothing about it, and that’s exactly what they’ll do - Northing - and they’ll go right back to their favorite pastime, Insider Trading.

      Last night, 29 year old Democratic Socialist Melat Kiros won her primary over a 15 term incumbent, and said:

      "For decades Democrats have failed to meaningfully deliver for working families,” Kiros told POLITICO’s William Steakin late last night following her stunning victory in Colorado’s 1st Congressional District. “We have to root out the corruption and get money out of our politics … It’s about political will — and that means we have to vote out any of the incumbents that are standing in our way by taking that kind of corporate PAC money.”

      You are talking about the OLD Democratic Party, the lazy, corrupt losers that helped MAGA gain power, and let them into the White House, TWICE. The MAGA Comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries are as responsible for that as MAGA itself, and the NEW Democrats that will take over after the Midterms will not will not accept their traditional Corporate Establishment Democratic Identities as Cowardly Weenies. They are being elected to make change, they are taking that charge seriously, and we need to support them with everything we’ve got.

      We need to send the message that we will no longer accept them doing nothing. We already elected them once to do something about MAGA, and they fucked us over, and let MAGA back in. If we take it back again, we expect them to deal with MAGA decisively, crush it, and purge it from our government, and our society.

      But instead, your response is: “We know you won’t do anything to save us from the MAGA Parasites, but that’s okay, we never really expected your help anyway.”

      Ew, gross. Grow a spine.

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          It won’t be any less true, you’re literally sitting here running interception and making the dude’s point for him.

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            I’m not American. But when I was in the country I was quite politically engaged. I guess I just wonder what they, or even you, think qualifies as motivating action, because they’ve never responded in the past.

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              I’m not sure how ‘motivating action’ factors in to the belief that the Democratic party can change. That the Democratic party is changing, especially when looking at the recent wins for the left.

              You’d need to help me understand what your point is. If your point is ‘Blue MAGA’ then I’d have to disagree, I have faith in men like Mamdani and young leftists to change the Democratic party.

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      The definition of Democrat is changing. The old guard is finally falling. This might actually work out after all. I’m skeptical but hopeful.

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      Well you’re in luck then, because a solid 30% of Americans are in fact morons, with another 20% precariously balanced on a knife edge

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    Yeah, blue could win everything. They could have a supermajority in both chambers of Congress and pack the Supreme court to have an undeniable majority

    And the Democrats would still ensure that no other conservatives see any kind of consequences.

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          Nah you communicated it well, blue just act like democrats are going to do anything lmao

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          I think you summed it up. Except there certainly will be prosecutions of a few mid level people; like before. I do remember the trials.

          Some people feel like if one is hopeful enough, the positive energy will rub off nationally.

          However the only way to reform a country is to be realistic

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      As I’ve been telling any Democratic Coward/ MAGA Quisling that crosses my path: If that happens, it’s your fault.

      Statements like that give them permission to do nothing, and tells them that you will do nothing if they do nothing. And that’s exactly what they’ll do - Nothing. YOU are a “Strongly Worded Letter Democrat.”

      But the Citizens aren’t doing nothing. Were taking the steps required to make the changes we all want. Right now, progressives are beating incumbents in primaries all over the country. In the Midterms, many of them will win, including several flips from MAGA Red to Progressive Blue. And once they’re in office, there will be changes in leadership, and a new direction.

      Those are steps we need to take, and the first one is already successfully under way. These new Dems are NOT going to sit back while DINO leadership defers to MAGA in everything.

      IF you truly want the Dems to stand up to MAGA, then DEMAND that, not give them permission to fail, again.

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    The Democrats are going to investigate your crimes? Are we talking about the same Democrats?

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      They investigated last time too. They ran out the clock on all the important stuff and nothing of consequence came of any of it but they technically did do quite a few investigations.

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      Investigations are great for them politically, why wouldn’t they?

      They sweep the house and set up special commissions investigating all of the wrongdoings very publicly and with much ceremony and somber pomp.

      Then either they’ll defer the discovered crimes to the justice department to make arrests (these will be ignored) or send impeachment proceedings to the senate (these will be swatted down).

      This lets them “do something” without actually making any changes. It will also be coordinated with the media to be the focus of politics for a while and not something dangerous like young anti-capitalist upstarts trying to steal the party they rightfully rigged so long ago.

      By making it seem like they’re doing something the can also tamper down some of that anti establishment energy that’s been boiling over recently.

      I hope they fucking fail.

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    Vance is now on record saying if the Nixon scandal happened today it wouldn’t even make it on the news. That is how brazenly corrupt these asshats are.

    No apologies, just the smug “we can grift all we want”.

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    I’ll still vote blue begrudgingly, but I have very very VERY little faith in Dem leadership will do anything meaningful like putting the current administration in prison. I’m already expecting to be massively disappointed in the Dems doing fuck all if they gain power back. Love to be proved wrong, but establishment Dems still hold the party and you can’t trust any of those stock trading bastards.

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      That’s why you need to vote for the farthest left primary hand didn’t matter how “unelectable” or “extreme” you were told they are because electing more centrists is the same as just selecting more Republicans

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      putting the current administration in prison.

      What powers, exactly, do you think they’d have if elected? They can investigate but they do not have the ability to put people in prison. The legislature and judiciary are separate branches.

      If we’re not stupid enough to refuse to vote again, we’re just going to go back to spouting these impossible expectations and then blaming Democrats when they can’t do it.

      If they don’t investigate anything then sure, they deserve to be criticized to hell and back.