The democratic socialist Melat Kiros unseated the long-serving US representative Diana DeGette in Colorado’s primary elections held on Tuesday, the latest in a string of high-profile victories for the party’s insurgent left.

The Associated Press reported that Kiros had defeated DeGette for the Democratic nomination in the deep-blue first congressional district centered on Denver. Kiros’s triumph came a week after New York voters unseated two Democratic congressional incumbents and replaced a third who was retiring with candidates who had campaigned on standing up to Israel amid accusations that it was carrying out a genocide in Gaza.

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    You f*** . . . The Guardian, is a business. Businesses exist to make a profit. A business that made almost £300 Million last year.

    You got that in your fucking couch cushions do ya? That’s a non-profit in your august estimation is it? Oo they take donations - so does the IRS! So does trump!

    Here’s your pancakes: a major global news organization is not calling out trump’s crimes or the many, many corrupt dealings of this fascist farce any more than the Ellison or Murdoch crime families are.

    Yes, they are kinder and gentler. Yes, they are moving in the right direction. And a bunch of stormtroopers on the front lines have doubts. Woohoo. They’re sitting on a nuclear arsenal of media influence not using it as the world burns. KUDOS ON THEIR FISCAL PURITY.

    What, you need examples? Specific citations to stories they deliberately hamstrung in order to be more marketable to MAGA? We got a whole bag of it in every edition, and all it takes to unlock the super-seekrit code is to read it.

    If they weren’t cozy with the colons of billionaires they’d be publishing on substack like the rest of the journalists with nothing to lose because corporate news found a well-informed populace to be less profitable.

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      Damn dude, is all you have disingenuous arguments, personal attacks, red herrings, strawmen, and disinformation?

      Here’s just a few examples of The Guardian doing the things you claim they don’t do, which includes criticizing trump and fascist policy, and supporting leftists:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jul/02/donald-trump-us-politics-250-anniversary-republicans-democrats-latest-news-updates

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/florida-undocumented-college-students

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/aoc-endorses-el-sayed-michigan

      If that’s not enough, here’s two more:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/trump-hijacked-250-anniversary

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2026/jul/02/ben-jennings-us-250th-birthday-under-donald-trump-cartoon

      And oh look, an editorial where they state the Guardian’s official opinion on the trump administration:

      The Guardian view on Trump’s wealth and power: a medieval court wreaks havoc in the 21st century: Supreme court rulings, and revelations of the president’s enrichment since his return to office, show that he has turned back the clock

      Next, I never called them a non-profit. If you really want to dig into their business status, here’s what wikipedia has to say about it:

      Along with its sister paper, The Guardian Weekly, The Guardian is part of the Guardian Media Group, owned by the Scott Trust Limited. The trust was created in 1936 to “secure the financial and editorial independence of The Guardian in perpetuity and to safeguard the journalistic freedom and liberal values of The Guardian free from commercial or political interference”. The trust was converted into a limited company in 2008, with a constitution written so as to maintain for The Guardian the same protections as were built into the structure of the Scott Trust by its creators. Profits are reinvested in its journalism rather than distributed to owners or shareholders.

      Not exactly a massive capitalistic hegemony. Oh, and $300 million is peanuts compared to billionaire revenues. This discussion started when you called them “billionaire news.” A few hundred million does not a billionaire make.

      Lastly, you want them publishing on substack instead? Where comparatively no one will read their articles? They have better reach as they are, and I see no reason to change that.

      Also, substack is riddled with neonazis.

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        Damn dude, is all you have disingenuous arguments, personal attacks, red herrings, strawmen, and disinformation?

        Right. You didn’t even read it. Ok.

        Here’s just a few examples of The Guardian doing the things you claim they don’t do, which includes criticizing trump and fascist policy, and supporting leftists:

        Sure we’ll take a look at these exciting counterarguments but just fyi even fox news criticizes trump and fascist policy. “Supporting leftists” might be too far for fox news but hey the guardian’s found a niche! They’re supporting leftists! (Don’t tell the leftists that though, they won’t like it)

        Next, I never called them a non-profit. If you really want to dig into their business status, here’s what wikipedia has to say about it:

        Thanks for the highest-level overview possible but I already covered that in much more detail than that - it was in what you already didn’t read.

        Oh, and $300 million is peanuts compared to billionaire revenues.

        £300 million or $400M US. Peanuts huh. Ok. Lemmy.world has revenues of $85,0000. The Guardian makes 4700 times that. “on donations” according to you. But that wouldn’t affect their editorial stance would it? Can . . . Can money change what people say? Noooooo. Unpossible. I mean it would take several hundred trillion to get someone to refer to sane persons as “critics”. At least.

        Don’t get hung up on substack. It’s just a reference point. And yes, death to nazis.

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          Right. You didn’t even read it. Ok.

          Sheer projection on your part.

          Sure we’ll take a look at these exciting counterarguments but just fyi

          In other words, “Sure, if you wanna bring logic and facts into it but hey let me deflect little harder this time!”

          You’re blabbering yourself into one of the most confuddled stances of cognitive dissonance mine eyes hath ever beheld.

          Thanks for the highest-level overview possible but I already covered that in much more detail than that - it was in what you already didn’t read.

          I went into more detail than you did. Detail which you refuse to engage with and instead continue to try to gloss over.

          £300 million or $400M US. Peanuts huh.

          Yes, we’re talking about whether or not they’re “billionaire news” as you accused them, and for a supposedly billionaire news company, $400M is peanuts.

          Bringing the revenue of a lemmy instance into it to compare to a major worldwide media outlet is disingenuous at best.

          Also, the whole point of acquiring their revenue from reader donations, as I stated originally, is so that they’re not beholden to large corporate and billionaire donors. And now that you’ve driveled your way in a circle of tangents, we arrive back where we started.

          Don’t get hung up on substack. It’s just a reference point.

          “Don’t get hung up on the shit that I actually said when you point out that it was stupid. I didn’t bother engaging with any of the reasonable points you made, instead dismissing them sarcastically as ‘exciting counterarguments,’ and I accused you of not reading my arguments, but don’t bother engaging with the things that I actually said cause I’ll just call those “reference points” when you point out how far they fall short as arguments.”

          If you’re not a troll, you must have some serious brain damage to think this is what a reasonable person sounds like. It’s okay to admit that you were wrong, you’ll stop embarrassing yourself much sooner that way.

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            I kind of thought in the last few days that we’re now going to start to see international western media starting to

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            actually have sympathy for Russia and put out pieces saying, you know what, these strikes on Russia, you know, they’re causing a humanitarian crisis.

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            This is going to be a problem. Maybe Ukraine should slow down a bit. And I thought that might be a few weeks away, but I um always overestimate the media’s

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            ability for nonsense. The Guardian published one 24 hours ago already. I don’t know if you saw it saying that the strikes on Moscow were were unjustified

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            and it’s too much. It’s like you couldn’t just like give Ukraine more than two seconds before apologizing for

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            Russia. I mean like really just two seconds.

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/25/morale-bombing-moscow-is-not-justified

            https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=5tuvNo-oAoA

            Troll, screw thyself.

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              Morale bombing is never militarily justified because there are now decades of evidence that it never fucking works. It’s a waste of ammunition, a waste of lives, a waste of humanitarian goodwill, tactically meaningless and strategically counterproductive because it will just galvanise resistance.

              Now, economic bombing, that is reasonable. Hit the machines that pay for Russia’s war. Bleed the oligarchs dry. But there is no value in hitting civilians. They’re not the primary target anyway.

              Also, there is this post as well:

              https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/28/ukraines-targets-in-russia-are-fully-justified.

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              Oh look, three other people submitted opposite opinions in the same letters section? Let’s have look:

              Ukraine’s targets in Russia are fully justified

              Strikes on oil refineries and energy facilities are not ‘morale bombing’, says Tim Dee-McCullough, while Dr Natalie Kopytko says such attacks save lives in Ukraine and Nathan Gabriel Wood decries a ‘false moral equivalency’ drawn between Russia and Ukraine

              Sun 28 Jun 2026 12.58 EDT

              Prof Christian Enemark’s letter (‘Morale’ bombing Moscow is not justified, 25 June) articulates a position of admirable moral consistency, but one that risks being fatally disconnected from the strategic and moral realities that Ukraine faces.

              The professor rests his argument on a bright-line distinction between combatants and civilians – a distinction that has genuine force in international humanitarian law, but which becomes considerably more complicated when Russian civilians fund, staff and politically sustain a war machine that has systematically targeted Ukrainian hospitals, schools, apartment blocks and energy infrastructure.

              The notion that Russian civilians are entirely without moral agency in relation to a war prosecuted in their name, with their taxes, and – polls suggest – with their substantial approval, is one that deserves more scrutiny than it receives here.

              Furthermore, Prof Enemark conflates two distinct categories of infrastructure targeting. Strikes on oil refineries and energy facilities are not “morale bombing” in the sense associated with the discredited area bombing campaigns of the second world war. They are attacks on dual-use industrial infrastructure that directly enables the Russian war effort – precisely the kind of target that international humanitarian law has long recognised as potentially legitimate, provided proportionality is observed. That civilians are inconvenienced, or even harmed incidentally, does not automatically render such strikes indiscriminate.

              The professor’s closing maxim – that “two wrongs do not make a right” – is philosophically tidy but strategically hollow. Ukraine is not retaliating for its own satisfaction; it is attempting to shorten a war in which its own civilian population continues to suffer grievously. If bringing the costs of that war home to Russian society accelerates its end, the calculus of harm may well favour such a strategy, not undermine it.

              The legitimate concern is proportionality and intent – not whether Ukraine must forever absorb punishment without responding in kind.

              Tim Dee-McCullough
              Windsor, Berkshire

              In his letter, Prof Christian Enemark uses language that hides the clear moral reasoning and justification for Ukraine’s defence strategy, which is clearly targeting Russia’s ability to fuel its continued attacks on Ukraine.

              Videos on social media show that the injuries and private property damage caused in Ukraine’s strike on the Moscow oil refinery on 18 June probably arose due to air defences missing targets, or drone debris. In many past attacks, Russia maintained that the injuries arose due to the debris of drones intercepted by Moscow’s air defences. If Russia wants to protect its civilians, it should let Ukraine hit targets or, even better, the most moral act would be to withdraw from Ukraine’s territory entirely.

              Further, it is not reasonable to suspect Ukraine of deliberately targeting civilians when the Ukrainian president speaks of bringing the war closer to ordinary Russians. In this context, “ordinary Russians” does not include activists speaking out against the war, and probably refers to middle-class Russian urbanites. In the past few months, “ordinary Russians” have been vocal on social media about internet restrictions and now fuel shortages. Prior to this, “ordinary Russians” rarely spoke about the consequences of the war, and some even cheered the killings of Ukrainian civilians.

              Further, Russia’s mobilisation deliberately targets prisoners and ethnic minorities from remote regions, and exploits the global south. The Moscow regime shields “ordinary Russians” as a political strategy against any uprisings.

              Prof Enemark ignores not only the political strategy but the battlefield and defensive strategy of these attacks. Moving air defence systems to Moscow will leave gaps that Ukraine can now exploit to liberate occupied territories. Moreover, hitting strategic military and fuel installations in Russia prevents their use in Ukraine. These attacks save thousands of lives for every “ordinary Russian’s” shoulder injury.

              Bombing Moscow influences morale, but morale does not serve as the primary motivation for the attacks.

              Nonetheless, allies could have helped to defend Ukraine in a more ethical manner. Political will to end our global addiction to fossil fuels would have stopped the west from continuing to economically support Russia’s war machine after the 2014 invasion. Instead, Europe continues to import Russian energy. The west could have “closed the skies” over Ukraine at any point since February 2022. This moral act would have prevented the deliberate killing of children in Mariupol in March 2022.

              Ukraine already pays deeply for the moral failings of Russia; do not make it pay for the moral failings of allies.

              Dr Natalie Kopytko
              Lecturer, Sustainability Research Institute, University of Leeds

              The main target of Ukraine’s largest-ever drone attack on Moscow was very clearly the Moscow oil refinery located in the Kapotnya district of the capital. One drone did not reach its target, hitting a nearby residential area, but there are no indications this was intentional, and the strike’s proximity to the Moscow refinery indicates that the drone probably missed its target or was driven off course due to Russian electronic warfare.

              Despite this, Prof Christian Enemark argues that “a strategy of ‘morale bombing’ a city’s residents is one that suffers from being inherently unjust”, writing that “Ukraine does not gain any moral permission to retaliate against Russia by launching indiscriminate attacks”. Yet Ukraine’s attack was highly discriminate, with nearly all drones that made it through Russia’s dense missile defence network – comprised of multiple rings of defensive systems – hitting the Moscow oil refinery.

              Enemark further argues that the “desired effect of such action is to increase [Russian] civilians’ sense of insecurity”, thus anchoring his objections to the attack. But if Ukraine’s aim was simply to increase a sense of insecurity in Moscow, many other less well-defended targets could have been hit. Or targets with more civilians in the immediate vicinity. The fact is that Ukraine chose to strike – with great precision – a key source of fuel and revenue for Russia’s ongoing illegal war against Ukraine.

              Enemark’s arguments also rely on a false moral equivalency between Russia and Ukraine, treating the two states as potentially acting on a par with one another – he remarks that “two wrongs do not make a right” – despite the widespread documentation of Russian soldiers targeting civilians, torturing civilians and prisoners of war, kidnapping children, and using rape as a method of war. The simple fact is that the Russian military has carried out a dizzying array of war crimes throughout its illegal and immoral war, and Ukraine precisely striking core pillars of the Russian economy that directly feed into ongoing wartime efforts is exactly what Volodymyr Zelenskyy says they are, “long-range sanctions” on the Russian war machine.

              Nathan Gabriel Wood
              Executive director, International Society for Military Ethics in Europe

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                  It’s not a pro-russian piece.

                  Throughout every paragraph, the author makes sideways jabs at Russia intended to make clear that it’s a war that they started, and that Ukraine is defending itself.

                  Their only point, which is the point that you’re contending with, is that Ukraine should still maintain the moral high ground by minimizing civilian casualties.

                  Literally, from the article you cited:

                  However, for the simple reason that two wrongs do not make a right, Ukraine does not gain any moral permission to retaliate against Russia by launching indiscriminate attacks. Ukraine should instead underline the justness of its cause by always respecting the innocence of all civilians.

                  That doesn’t sound pro-russian…

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                    That doesn’t sound pro-russian…

                    And yet. What does the letter call out? Russian attacks on civilians? (Don’t you dare say yes because it’s obliquely referenced. That is not how it works.)

                    Russia isn’t spending hundreds of millions of dollars every single year to bring reasoned debate into the world. They’re doing it to accomplish what Cambridge Analytica proved without a doubt: convince 50.1% of the voters that something outrageous “sounds” true and nothing else matters.

                    You can continue to throw the third largest military (by budget) against the 43rd largest (in 2021, before the genocide started) and professors in Southampton can express qualms over the danger of unintentional casualties in the aggressor nation. Sure! RUN THAT BABY. We need to publish more garbage that keeps this thing going.

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              Oh, what’s that? An opinion piece in their “Letters” section where non-journalists can submit their letters of opinion? Perhaps there’s more nuance to it than you’re making it out to have. Let’s see what it says:

              ‘Morale bombing’ Moscow is not justified

              Prof Christian Enemark reacts to Ukraine’s largest drone raid on Russia, calling on it to respect the innocence of all civilians

              Thu 25 Jun 2026 12.53 EDT

              The main target of Ukraine’s largest-ever drone attack on Moscow was apparently an oil refinery on the city’s edge (Moscow oil refinery struck in Ukraine’s biggest air raid on city since start of war, 18 June). However, it also caused some civilian injuries and damage to private property. It is possible that this other damage was entirely unintended, but it is reasonable to suspect otherwise when the Ukrainian president speaks of bringing the war closer to ordinary Russians.

              The desired effect of such action is to increase those civilians’ sense of insecurity and force the Russian president to quell popular discontent by ending the war he started. Unfortunately, though, a strategy of “morale bombing” a city’s residents is one that suffers from being inherently unjust. Thus, it has the potential to undermine the legitimacy of Ukraine’s self-defensive war effort.

              Russian civilians are not morally liable to attack. Unlike enemy combatants, civilians lack the capacity to injure or kill, so they present no military threat to be violently neutralised. This is a distinction that must be recognised by both sides in the Russia-Ukraine war. Although Russia was wrong to invade its neighbour in February 2022, Ukraine still has a responsibility to avoid the deliberate harming of innocents when violently defending itself. Since the invasion, Russia appears to have targeted the civilian residents of Ukrainian cities on many occasions.

              However, for the simple reason that two wrongs do not make a right, Ukraine does not gain any moral permission to retaliate against Russia by launching indiscriminate attacks. Ukraine should instead underline the justness of its cause by always respecting the innocence of all civilians.

              Prof Christian Enemark
              University of Southampton

              Have an opinion on anything you’ve read in the Guardian today? Please email us your letter and it will be considered for publication in our letters section

              Now, I have zero sympathy for Russia. But that opinion piece sounds more like it’s urging restraint with regard to operations that have the potential to inflict civilian casualties. On the surface at least, that seems like a fairly reasonable point to make.

              It doesn’t come off as “sympathy for russia,” nor as insinuating that the Ukrainian operations are “causing a humanitarian crisis.”

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                Did you know when a corporate news outlet prints something it gets amplified across the world?

                Do you think the Guardian editors know that? Do you think they like making $800,0000 dollars a year? Would such a thing induce them to take suggestions from their bosses?

                No? Just pure journalistic integrity, eh. *snif* That’s beautiful, man.

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                  It was an opinion piece submitted by a reader. And as I’ve already pointed out, they also published opposing opinions.

                  Not to mention, the original opinion in question was not even pro-russian as you seem to be trying to insinuate.

                  Is it pro-hamas to say Israel should have avoided killing Palestinian civilians when they retaliated for October 7th? Is it pro-zionist to say Palestinian groups should have avoided killing israeli civilians when they retaliated for Israel’s aggressive settler-colonialism and ethnic cleansings?

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                But that opinion piece sounds more like it’s urging restraint with regard to operations that have the potential to inflict civilian casualties. On the surface at least, that seems like a fairly reasonable point to make.

                You’ve hit upon and described exactly how influence operations work. Well done. Remember when the russians intentionally leveled a building full of children that had “Children” written in big letters on the front lawn because we naïvely thought russians wouldn’t slaughter children for fun? There was no strategic benefit, they just wanted to slaughter children.

                Fortunately, the wise and leftist-supporting editors at The Guardian reminded everyone of that when publishing this pro-russian screed. Oh wait, they didn’t? Well look at that. Maybe they really are leftist-supporting then.

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                  That’s a red herring. I never detracted from the atrocities russia has committed, and neither did the author of that opinion piece. They squarely blamed russia for indiscriminate killings of civilians in Ukraine.

                  Literally all he said is that Ukraine should be careful to minimize civilian casualties in their retaliatory efforts. He didn’t say they shouldn’t retaliate. He didn’t say “oh but it’s fine when russia does it.”

                  Your entire argument is based on a mischaracterization and a strawman.

                  Oh wait, they didn’t?

                  It’s in the fucking article, you dunce. Apparently you didn’t read it.

                  Maybe they really are leftist-supporting then.

                  Russia is not leftist.

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                    That’s a red herring.

                    Au contraire. That’s the whole of the piece. Protect russia from what it’s been doing to others for longer than WWII.

                    Literally all he said is that Ukraine should be careful to minimize civilian casualties in their retaliatory efforts.

                    They have done nothing but that. To even suggest they haven’t is outrageous bullshit. And the news corp The Guardian knows this very well.

                    He didn’t say “oh but it’s fine when russia does it.”

                    Of course not. That would give the game away. Hell, MAGA-level intellects would start to suspect it was a pro-russia piece if he did that.

                    Russia is not leftist.

                    I will give you $5 (five) American dollars for you to make a post on some popular lemmy.ml comm and say that. They’re up in politics and politicalmemes and news and a bunch of other comms with that as a given in their own minds every day. It’s a constant. Fuck, go define a liberal position to them on here and watch them turn inside out with self-righteous rage.

                    The russia supporters on .ml and our venerable Southampton professor have something in common. And The Guardian is helping them spread it around. In large part because they are a corporate entity. Which was my point all along. ProPublica’s not publishing that garbage, and why not? Because they don’t have to.

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      You’re pulling so much shit out of your ass it’s hard to believe you’re not a troll. Every single comment you’ve made here reads like you’re replying to completely different comments than you actually are. You’re getting angry about so many things that weren’t even hinted at. And this isn’t about who’s wrong, it’s fully about you clearly having some major mental issue that makes you unable to have a reasonable debate.