The democratic socialist Melat Kiros unseated the long-serving US representative Diana DeGette in Colorado’s primary elections held on Tuesday, the latest in a string of high-profile victories for the party’s insurgent left.

The Associated Press reported that Kiros had defeated DeGette for the Democratic nomination in the deep-blue first congressional district centered on Denver. Kiros’s triumph came a week after New York voters unseated two Democratic congressional incumbents and replaced a third who was retiring with candidates who had campaigned on standing up to Israel amid accusations that it was carrying out a genocide in Gaza.

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    Damn dude, is all you have disingenuous arguments, personal attacks, red herrings, strawmen, and disinformation?

    Here’s just a few examples of The Guardian doing the things you claim they don’t do, which includes criticizing trump and fascist policy, and supporting leftists:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jul/02/donald-trump-us-politics-250-anniversary-republicans-democrats-latest-news-updates

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/florida-undocumented-college-students

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/aoc-endorses-el-sayed-michigan

    If that’s not enough, here’s two more:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/02/trump-hijacked-250-anniversary

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2026/jul/02/ben-jennings-us-250th-birthday-under-donald-trump-cartoon

    And oh look, an editorial where they state the Guardian’s official opinion on the trump administration:

    The Guardian view on Trump’s wealth and power: a medieval court wreaks havoc in the 21st century: Supreme court rulings, and revelations of the president’s enrichment since his return to office, show that he has turned back the clock

    Next, I never called them a non-profit. If you really want to dig into their business status, here’s what wikipedia has to say about it:

    Along with its sister paper, The Guardian Weekly, The Guardian is part of the Guardian Media Group, owned by the Scott Trust Limited. The trust was created in 1936 to “secure the financial and editorial independence of The Guardian in perpetuity and to safeguard the journalistic freedom and liberal values of The Guardian free from commercial or political interference”. The trust was converted into a limited company in 2008, with a constitution written so as to maintain for The Guardian the same protections as were built into the structure of the Scott Trust by its creators. Profits are reinvested in its journalism rather than distributed to owners or shareholders.

    Not exactly a massive capitalistic hegemony. Oh, and $300 million is peanuts compared to billionaire revenues. This discussion started when you called them “billionaire news.” A few hundred million does not a billionaire make.

    Lastly, you want them publishing on substack instead? Where comparatively no one will read their articles? They have better reach as they are, and I see no reason to change that.

    Also, substack is riddled with neonazis.

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      Damn dude, is all you have disingenuous arguments, personal attacks, red herrings, strawmen, and disinformation?

      Right. You didn’t even read it. Ok.

      Here’s just a few examples of The Guardian doing the things you claim they don’t do, which includes criticizing trump and fascist policy, and supporting leftists:

      Sure we’ll take a look at these exciting counterarguments but just fyi even fox news criticizes trump and fascist policy. “Supporting leftists” might be too far for fox news but hey the guardian’s found a niche! They’re supporting leftists! (Don’t tell the leftists that though, they won’t like it)

      Next, I never called them a non-profit. If you really want to dig into their business status, here’s what wikipedia has to say about it:

      Thanks for the highest-level overview possible but I already covered that in much more detail than that - it was in what you already didn’t read.

      Oh, and $300 million is peanuts compared to billionaire revenues.

      £300 million or $400M US. Peanuts huh. Ok. Lemmy.world has revenues of $85,0000. The Guardian makes 4700 times that. “on donations” according to you. But that wouldn’t affect their editorial stance would it? Can . . . Can money change what people say? Noooooo. Unpossible. I mean it would take several hundred trillion to get someone to refer to sane persons as “critics”. At least.

      Don’t get hung up on substack. It’s just a reference point. And yes, death to nazis.

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        Right. You didn’t even read it. Ok.

        Sheer projection on your part.

        Sure we’ll take a look at these exciting counterarguments but just fyi

        In other words, “Sure, if you wanna bring logic and facts into it but hey let me deflect little harder this time!”

        You’re blabbering yourself into one of the most confuddled stances of cognitive dissonance mine eyes hath ever beheld.

        Thanks for the highest-level overview possible but I already covered that in much more detail than that - it was in what you already didn’t read.

        I went into more detail than you did. Detail which you refuse to engage with and instead continue to try to gloss over.

        £300 million or $400M US. Peanuts huh.

        Yes, we’re talking about whether or not they’re “billionaire news” as you accused them, and for a supposedly billionaire news company, $400M is peanuts.

        Bringing the revenue of a lemmy instance into it to compare to a major worldwide media outlet is disingenuous at best.

        Also, the whole point of acquiring their revenue from reader donations, as I stated originally, is so that they’re not beholden to large corporate and billionaire donors. And now that you’ve driveled your way in a circle of tangents, we arrive back where we started.

        Don’t get hung up on substack. It’s just a reference point.

        “Don’t get hung up on the shit that I actually said when you point out that it was stupid. I didn’t bother engaging with any of the reasonable points you made, instead dismissing them sarcastically as ‘exciting counterarguments,’ and I accused you of not reading my arguments, but don’t bother engaging with the things that I actually said cause I’ll just call those “reference points” when you point out how far they fall short as arguments.”

        If you’re not a troll, you must have some serious brain damage to think this is what a reasonable person sounds like. It’s okay to admit that you were wrong, you’ll stop embarrassing yourself much sooner that way.

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          I kind of thought in the last few days that we’re now going to start to see international western media starting to

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          actually have sympathy for Russia and put out pieces saying, you know what, these strikes on Russia, you know, they’re causing a humanitarian crisis.

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          This is going to be a problem. Maybe Ukraine should slow down a bit. And I thought that might be a few weeks away, but I um always overestimate the media’s

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          ability for nonsense. The Guardian published one 24 hours ago already. I don’t know if you saw it saying that the strikes on Moscow were were unjustified

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          and it’s too much. It’s like you couldn’t just like give Ukraine more than two seconds before apologizing for

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          Russia. I mean like really just two seconds.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/25/morale-bombing-moscow-is-not-justified

          https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=5tuvNo-oAoA

          Troll, screw thyself.

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            Morale bombing is never militarily justified because there are now decades of evidence that it never fucking works. It’s a waste of ammunition, a waste of lives, a waste of humanitarian goodwill, tactically meaningless and strategically counterproductive because it will just galvanise resistance.

            Now, economic bombing, that is reasonable. Hit the machines that pay for Russia’s war. Bleed the oligarchs dry. But there is no value in hitting civilians. They’re not the primary target anyway.

            Also, there is this post as well:

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/28/ukraines-targets-in-russia-are-fully-justified.

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            Oh look, three other people submitted opposite opinions in the same letters section? Let’s have look:

            Ukraine’s targets in Russia are fully justified

            Strikes on oil refineries and energy facilities are not ‘morale bombing’, says Tim Dee-McCullough, while Dr Natalie Kopytko says such attacks save lives in Ukraine and Nathan Gabriel Wood decries a ‘false moral equivalency’ drawn between Russia and Ukraine

            Sun 28 Jun 2026 12.58 EDT

            Prof Christian Enemark’s letter (‘Morale’ bombing Moscow is not justified, 25 June) articulates a position of admirable moral consistency, but one that risks being fatally disconnected from the strategic and moral realities that Ukraine faces.

            The professor rests his argument on a bright-line distinction between combatants and civilians – a distinction that has genuine force in international humanitarian law, but which becomes considerably more complicated when Russian civilians fund, staff and politically sustain a war machine that has systematically targeted Ukrainian hospitals, schools, apartment blocks and energy infrastructure.

            The notion that Russian civilians are entirely without moral agency in relation to a war prosecuted in their name, with their taxes, and – polls suggest – with their substantial approval, is one that deserves more scrutiny than it receives here.

            Furthermore, Prof Enemark conflates two distinct categories of infrastructure targeting. Strikes on oil refineries and energy facilities are not “morale bombing” in the sense associated with the discredited area bombing campaigns of the second world war. They are attacks on dual-use industrial infrastructure that directly enables the Russian war effort – precisely the kind of target that international humanitarian law has long recognised as potentially legitimate, provided proportionality is observed. That civilians are inconvenienced, or even harmed incidentally, does not automatically render such strikes indiscriminate.

            The professor’s closing maxim – that “two wrongs do not make a right” – is philosophically tidy but strategically hollow. Ukraine is not retaliating for its own satisfaction; it is attempting to shorten a war in which its own civilian population continues to suffer grievously. If bringing the costs of that war home to Russian society accelerates its end, the calculus of harm may well favour such a strategy, not undermine it.

            The legitimate concern is proportionality and intent – not whether Ukraine must forever absorb punishment without responding in kind.

            Tim Dee-McCullough
            Windsor, Berkshire

            In his letter, Prof Christian Enemark uses language that hides the clear moral reasoning and justification for Ukraine’s defence strategy, which is clearly targeting Russia’s ability to fuel its continued attacks on Ukraine.

            Videos on social media show that the injuries and private property damage caused in Ukraine’s strike on the Moscow oil refinery on 18 June probably arose due to air defences missing targets, or drone debris. In many past attacks, Russia maintained that the injuries arose due to the debris of drones intercepted by Moscow’s air defences. If Russia wants to protect its civilians, it should let Ukraine hit targets or, even better, the most moral act would be to withdraw from Ukraine’s territory entirely.

            Further, it is not reasonable to suspect Ukraine of deliberately targeting civilians when the Ukrainian president speaks of bringing the war closer to ordinary Russians. In this context, “ordinary Russians” does not include activists speaking out against the war, and probably refers to middle-class Russian urbanites. In the past few months, “ordinary Russians” have been vocal on social media about internet restrictions and now fuel shortages. Prior to this, “ordinary Russians” rarely spoke about the consequences of the war, and some even cheered the killings of Ukrainian civilians.

            Further, Russia’s mobilisation deliberately targets prisoners and ethnic minorities from remote regions, and exploits the global south. The Moscow regime shields “ordinary Russians” as a political strategy against any uprisings.

            Prof Enemark ignores not only the political strategy but the battlefield and defensive strategy of these attacks. Moving air defence systems to Moscow will leave gaps that Ukraine can now exploit to liberate occupied territories. Moreover, hitting strategic military and fuel installations in Russia prevents their use in Ukraine. These attacks save thousands of lives for every “ordinary Russian’s” shoulder injury.

            Bombing Moscow influences morale, but morale does not serve as the primary motivation for the attacks.

            Nonetheless, allies could have helped to defend Ukraine in a more ethical manner. Political will to end our global addiction to fossil fuels would have stopped the west from continuing to economically support Russia’s war machine after the 2014 invasion. Instead, Europe continues to import Russian energy. The west could have “closed the skies” over Ukraine at any point since February 2022. This moral act would have prevented the deliberate killing of children in Mariupol in March 2022.

            Ukraine already pays deeply for the moral failings of Russia; do not make it pay for the moral failings of allies.

            Dr Natalie Kopytko
            Lecturer, Sustainability Research Institute, University of Leeds

            The main target of Ukraine’s largest-ever drone attack on Moscow was very clearly the Moscow oil refinery located in the Kapotnya district of the capital. One drone did not reach its target, hitting a nearby residential area, but there are no indications this was intentional, and the strike’s proximity to the Moscow refinery indicates that the drone probably missed its target or was driven off course due to Russian electronic warfare.

            Despite this, Prof Christian Enemark argues that “a strategy of ‘morale bombing’ a city’s residents is one that suffers from being inherently unjust”, writing that “Ukraine does not gain any moral permission to retaliate against Russia by launching indiscriminate attacks”. Yet Ukraine’s attack was highly discriminate, with nearly all drones that made it through Russia’s dense missile defence network – comprised of multiple rings of defensive systems – hitting the Moscow oil refinery.

            Enemark further argues that the “desired effect of such action is to increase [Russian] civilians’ sense of insecurity”, thus anchoring his objections to the attack. But if Ukraine’s aim was simply to increase a sense of insecurity in Moscow, many other less well-defended targets could have been hit. Or targets with more civilians in the immediate vicinity. The fact is that Ukraine chose to strike – with great precision – a key source of fuel and revenue for Russia’s ongoing illegal war against Ukraine.

            Enemark’s arguments also rely on a false moral equivalency between Russia and Ukraine, treating the two states as potentially acting on a par with one another – he remarks that “two wrongs do not make a right” – despite the widespread documentation of Russian soldiers targeting civilians, torturing civilians and prisoners of war, kidnapping children, and using rape as a method of war. The simple fact is that the Russian military has carried out a dizzying array of war crimes throughout its illegal and immoral war, and Ukraine precisely striking core pillars of the Russian economy that directly feed into ongoing wartime efforts is exactly what Volodymyr Zelenskyy says they are, “long-range sanctions” on the Russian war machine.

            Nathan Gabriel Wood
            Executive director, International Society for Military Ethics in Europe

            Have an opinion on anything you’ve read in the Guardian today? Please email us your letter and it will be considered for publication in our letters section.

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            Oh, what’s that? An opinion piece in their “Letters” section where non-journalists can submit their letters of opinion? Perhaps there’s more nuance to it than you’re making it out to have. Let’s see what it says:

            ‘Morale bombing’ Moscow is not justified

            Prof Christian Enemark reacts to Ukraine’s largest drone raid on Russia, calling on it to respect the innocence of all civilians

            Thu 25 Jun 2026 12.53 EDT

            The main target of Ukraine’s largest-ever drone attack on Moscow was apparently an oil refinery on the city’s edge (Moscow oil refinery struck in Ukraine’s biggest air raid on city since start of war, 18 June). However, it also caused some civilian injuries and damage to private property. It is possible that this other damage was entirely unintended, but it is reasonable to suspect otherwise when the Ukrainian president speaks of bringing the war closer to ordinary Russians.

            The desired effect of such action is to increase those civilians’ sense of insecurity and force the Russian president to quell popular discontent by ending the war he started. Unfortunately, though, a strategy of “morale bombing” a city’s residents is one that suffers from being inherently unjust. Thus, it has the potential to undermine the legitimacy of Ukraine’s self-defensive war effort.

            Russian civilians are not morally liable to attack. Unlike enemy combatants, civilians lack the capacity to injure or kill, so they present no military threat to be violently neutralised. This is a distinction that must be recognised by both sides in the Russia-Ukraine war. Although Russia was wrong to invade its neighbour in February 2022, Ukraine still has a responsibility to avoid the deliberate harming of innocents when violently defending itself. Since the invasion, Russia appears to have targeted the civilian residents of Ukrainian cities on many occasions.

            However, for the simple reason that two wrongs do not make a right, Ukraine does not gain any moral permission to retaliate against Russia by launching indiscriminate attacks. Ukraine should instead underline the justness of its cause by always respecting the innocence of all civilians.

            Prof Christian Enemark
            University of Southampton

            Have an opinion on anything you’ve read in the Guardian today? Please email us your letter and it will be considered for publication in our letters section

            Now, I have zero sympathy for Russia. But that opinion piece sounds more like it’s urging restraint with regard to operations that have the potential to inflict civilian casualties. On the surface at least, that seems like a fairly reasonable point to make.

            It doesn’t come off as “sympathy for russia,” nor as insinuating that the Ukrainian operations are “causing a humanitarian crisis.”