Iran re-closed the Strait of Hormuz Friday instead of heading to Switzerland for nuclear negotiations, citing Israel’s refusal to pull forces out of southern Lebanon and US forces’ ongoing presence in the region.
In a statement read over maritime radio channels, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said the US was in violation of the memorandum of understanding between Washington and Tehran, which President Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian signed Wednesday.
“Since Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon, the complete lifting of the naval blockade, and the withdrawal of American terrorist forces from the Persian Gulf and the region are among the main conditions of the agreement between Iran and the United States, the Strait of Hormuz will remain closed until these conditions are met,” it said. “All ships are requested, for the sake of their security and safety, not to approach the Strait of Hormuz. Any vessel that defies this directive will be targeted.”
Israel is the Main Culprit keeping the ECONOMICALLY NECESSARY Straight of Hormuz closed? And because of that the US Economy is going to be DEVESTATED? Quick! We MUST give the Israelis MORE US Taxdollars and MORE US Military Intelligence!
-The US Congress LITERALLY!
Those days are over! Say no to Israeli funding and YES to merging the military industrial complexes together so that you’ll never know where the money goes, let alone stop it.
AIPAC is also dead! Long live a thousand innocent sounding organizations with “fundraisers” instead. Nothing nefarious, all above board. The most moral people work in the darkness in case you didn’t know.
Watching the US get its economy shredded by a pedophile would be a lot more entertaining if I wasn’t a participant in that economy.
It’s not just Israel refusing to pull troops back, they literally had a “round of strikes” according the Barrons
https://www.barrons.com/articles/oil-iran-war-strait-of-hormuz-39af4440
Netanyahu literally cannot pull his troops back. Any peace time for Israel means autopsies on the conflict and the whole Israeli government getting charged for war crimes. Governments understand this and it’s going to be Western governments stepping aside and withdrawing their money to allow Israel to get flattened by the regional powers. I don’t like the Israeli government, and there certainly are a lot of supporters in the region (probably over 50%), but we’re probably about to see a whole bunch of innocent Israel citizens being vaporized as well.
Not sure if I understand what you’re trying to say. My read of this MOU is that the US is pulling the plug. Israel is already overextended in Lebanon, and they for sure can not fight Iran without the backing of the USA.
And even if they had that backing, interceptors are depleted and radars destroyed. Dimona got hit with a nuclear-capable rocket loaded with sand, a clear message which they know how to interpret. They’ll keep testing the waters with Trump for a bit, but the US will clarify to them that they really aren’t bluffing with this MOU.
Israel has no right to be butthurt that they didn’t get a seat at the negotiating table. They’re a proxy, not a partner. They are living way beyond their means and that’s coming to an end. Their bluff has been called. Now they need to stfu and do as they are told.
Well just male it the Gay of Hormuz and then everyone wins.
Underrated idea :D
Don’t fycking remind me about raspberries and not give me a free promo code! The aliens use raspberries enough to control my consciousness, I don’t need more!
So the American surrender didn’t do squat, eh?
America didnt have the zionists permission to surrender.
Watching this every day is like watching two narcissists with autism arguing.
How so?
Iranian, Israeli, and US leadership are all self absorbed authoritarians who care more about looking powerful and could give fuck all about the ppl they supposedly govern
Bro, iran found out that if they just block the strait they wont get bombed. In what universe is keeping their cities from being bombed not giving a fuck all about their people?
I am an iranian citizen, they do not give a shit about us. Trying not to get bombed is rule 1:1 of not having your government collapse
Nukes are so 20th century. Who needs nukes when you can literally shut down the global economy with a phone call?
A phone call, an armada of speed boats, thousands of sea mines, and a mosaic defense strategy that allows for the continuous firing of ballistic missiles after suffering $1T in infrastructure damage.
Still less trouble than building and launching a nuke.
those local commanders are likely going to find themselves falling a sudden stop if they fuck up the central gov of iran’s 300 bill deal i suspect
$300 billion is too low. They know they can get an even trillion.
I don’t think you realize the scope of these sums. $300 billion is already a mindblowing amount of money, even for an entire country.
That’s nearly 4x Iran’s entire annual budget revenue.
Yeah you right only 4 year of annual budget revenu for this kind of agression is not close to enough. How long will it take to rebuild, I wonder. Without saying they have to restock their ammunitions for the future
I’m not saying it’s too much or that it’s uncalled for, I’m saying $300 billions is already an unsourmantably good deal and a sign of great victory, it’s just unrealistic to expect even more.
Lol, why ? Elon have 2 trillions now, explain me why a country attacked a another, destroying infrastructur, killing families ruining countless lives, should be compensated less than one guy worth ? Dude just stop you are digging
You’re literally comparing physical assets to some very serious robux money. And I’m the one delusional here? Plus - 2 trillions, give me a fucking break. Fuck off.
Most people seem to think “So-and-so is worth X billion” means they have X billion in straight cash, they don’t know it includes any stocks or companies and properties they own or anything like that.
The rest of the people here that do understand that still don’t think anyone should own private property to be fair, but they’re not exactly thinking through how that works either. Basically (for example) instead of say Elon owning X and Tesla either he has to sell it to another rich guy for the trillions and then give that to Iran, or I guess transfer ownership of those assets directly to Iran so Iran just owns X and Tesla now, communism has nothing to do with it, no workers win, they just think “company bad” and all other thought goes out the window.
Scummy from Iran. The US should immediately block the strait again and get back to bombarding Iran and killing their leaders
Iran did the most hilarious thing possible! They’re going to bend Trump over backwards for the rest of his life.
As much as I fear the consequences this will have for the economies of the world, especially poor countries who will get hit the hardest, I enjoy watching Trump and his friends get humiliated. They deserve it.
Which won’t be long, hopefully.
Come on, Death, do your fucking job!!(Though an excruciatingly painful and debilitating illness is much preferred. I’d wish a long life to the Donvict if that happens)
It’d be funny if it weren’t for Israel doing lebensraum and ethnic cleansing in Lebanon.
This whole thing is stupid as fuck.
I’ve got no special love for Israel, but they are still an independent country that is not obligated to do as we ask.
Trump made a deal that promises they’ll do something- a promise he had no standing to make. That’s like if I promised everyone reading this thread that if you upvote me, Elon Musk will give you a million dollars. I have no authority to make that promise because Elon never agreed to it, and he’s not bound by my statements.
And since apparently Israel never agreed to this, and in fact said openly they don’t agree, this whole deal was bullshit from the start.
Hope we didn’t send the money yet…
You’re stupid as fuck.
And the US - as an independent country - can also withhold military aid, intelligence, financial support, political cover at the UN, and overall Israeli dick sucking to get the ethno-fascist state to fall in line.
You don’t provide any of that to Elon…though I can’t tell for certain about the dick sucking, but that’s totally your choice dude.
Lol
Yeah we can absolutely do those things, and some of them we probably should just on general principle. I have always been of the belief that if you give a guy a gun and he shoots somebody, and you give him another gun and he shoots somebody else, you may not be responsible for the first shooting but you’re definitely responsible for the second. And all of the ones that come after that.
So if you’re going to argue that we should take a harder stance with Israel, I’m definitely not going to disagree. Whether that will actually happen is a completely different story.
However even if we weren’t going to strong-arm Israel, it’s basic dealmaking 101 that while bluffing is acceptable in some situations, when it comes time to put the cards on the table and play them, you can’t play a bluff.
I could see this as a comedy skit
Trump: if you reopen the Strait Israel will get out of Lebanon. Israel: no we won’t.
Iran: okay we will open the strait and Israel will leave Lebanon. Israel: no we won’t leave Lebanon.
Trump: okay we have a deal!
Iran: Why isn’t Israel leaving Lebanon?
Israel: is my phone on mute or something?Haha, I’d agree that it would be hilarious if so many people weren’t getting killed.
Yes, Israel openly says that they won’t stop. But if those are the conditions that Iran puts to the deal and the US is agreeing to those conditions, then it’s really up to the US to pressure Israel to stop (via the multiple ways mentioned). Otherwise the conditions aren’t met.
Oh yeah I agree on both concepts- too much death, and if US did agree to that then it’s on us to try to push Israel to follow it.
My point stands though that we promised something that a. we cannot guarantee, and b. have no intention of even trying to make happen.
Hopefully this helps drive a big wedge between Israel and the US. Lets stop giving them any weapons and aid. Tired of my tax dollars supporting a rich country dead set on genocide. Israel can handle their own affairs.
USA and UK created Israel for a reason, and they’re fine with Israel’s actions.
Israel is doing what it was created to do.
The Soviet Union was the first country to recognise Israel as a state, and the biggest original supporter. Link
The US became a pivotal supporter only after 1967. (And that’s when Israel allegedly became an asset)
Britain literally created the state, of course they recognized them first, lol.
Britain got tired of having their people killed by the local terrorists and left. That’s not pre-recognition of the government that those terrorists later set up.
Balfour declaration.
Hopefully when American strategic reserves run dry, America goes into a depression and collapses!
America needs sweeping changes for sure. Hoping for a collapse would be catastrophic to 300million, and life alerting for even more. They don’t exist in a vacuum.
Sure, you can reform the country founded on genocide and slavery, which still practices both to this day. Good luck!
