• Greyghoster@aussie.zone
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    2 days ago

    Most people from a non tipping culture don’t know how to tip. They don’t know how much, is it inappropriate, do the stuff get it or does management steal it. Really is a big deal.

    • Diurnambule@jlai.lu
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      2 days ago

      Lol non tipping culture… Bro … In Europe we tip often when the server is nice and provide a good service. It is unimaginable that server are some sort of slaves which have to beg customer because they employer don’t pay them their fair share…

      • ranzispa@mander.xyz
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        2 days ago

        Definitely not the same thing. I was very confused when in the US as to what I should tip. I knew tipping was expected but in several occasions I asked the waiter what an appropriate tip would be.

        In most cases adding a couple dollars to the price is not enough and could be seen as an insult.

        In Europe I don’t often give a 20€ tip after paying 100€ in a restaurant.

        • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          Generally 18% to 20% of the pre-tax bill is appropriate. 20 for great service, 18 for ok, less if the server was not good.

          • ranzispa@mander.xyz
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            2 days ago

            Don’t know about you, when service is not good I just don’t pay - let alone tip the waiter.

            If I eat terribly in a restaurant I’ll just walk out.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              2 days ago

              So in America that is called “theft.” You can’t (well you can but it is illegal and you can be charged with a crime) just steal the food and leave.

              And in some cases (not all,) that server is forced to pay for the meal you skipped out on. Not a great thing to do to someone tbh, even if you’re mad they didn’t bring your refill quick enough.

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                1 day ago

                The waiter is charged if a customer does not pay? That is quite absurd. That’s a business loss, the owner should lose money and and not employees.

                I don’t know about America, when I did that I’ve always been quite loud and nobody ever thought about calling the police.

                even if you’re mad they didn’t bring your refill quick enough.

                Not sure what a refill is. I did not say that if I don’t like the waiter I won’t pay, in that case it just would be absurd for me to give them a tip. I said if I am served bad food I won’t pay, which has nothing to do with wether the waiter was nice to me.

                Never seen this as theft, it may legally be. I’m sure any policeman would agree and do nothing about it anyway.

                • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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                  1 day ago

                  Ah in America you have to speak with the manager and basically attempt to convince them to comp your food. If the food is sufficiently subpar you can often get them to do so, though if the restaurant is just bad you’re likely to not succeed.

                • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  1 day ago

                  Not every place, many do eat the cost, but many do charge the waiter as if it’s their responsibility to stop you, yes.

                  It’s definitely theft. If I go into a store, open a coke, take a sip, go “eww” and walk out, the store can no longer sell that used coke and has to trash it. Same at a restaurant.

    • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      It’s not hard to do the smallest amount of research about a place you are travelling to. I travel all over and always look up the local customs.

      • Greyghoster@aussie.zone
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        2 days ago

        So have I but I find it hard to know what is appropriate and what’s ridiculous and there is always this internal tension about am I getting ripped off or am I ripping someone off. One of distortions seems to be waiting staff received more than the people doing the cooking. It’s a really bad system.