I think it’s exactly the point that me and lots of other people are making that proper work laws today is what saves working people from poverty today and tomorrow and that increasingly delegating the survival of working people to the kindness of others via social pressure and goodwill contributions diguised as tips instead of making sure they’re paid fair wages for fair work actually makes the situation worse over time because salaries keep falling and higher and higher gratuities are needed to make up for it.
In fact, the trend in the US when it comes to tips shows exactly that: over the years people kept doing what you say should be done and during that time the situation kept getting worse with a higher and higher tip required for people’s survival.
The natural long term unsustainability of that economic scheme is exactly the problem.
Meanwhile proper worker legislation has proven itself all over the World as a stable solution for working poverty amongst people working is restauration: in simple terms relying on tips for income has no track record anywhere in the World of guaranteeing that workers remain outside poverty whilst good worker legislation has a broad track record of keeping workers out of poverty.
You’re literally defending the anti-solution of “let’s avoid pain today even if it leads to solving the problem”, which just so happens to be very kind of messaging that makes the modern US have horrible insecure working conditions for anybody who is not a highly specialized worker or a member of one of the dwindling unions still around.
I’m not defending the anti-solution, I’m saying that the anti-solution is the only way to meet the material needs of these people right now. Capitalism is both the system that we live under and a system that should be dismantled, and these two things are not contradictary. You’re literally defending the idea of having a service rendered to you and then denying the human being that served you the means to feed themselves. Because why? Hopefully if you and others do it enough it will turn the tide and maybe there will be some massive uprising of service workers and then people will get paid a living wage? Exactly what are they supposed to do until then?
Which brings me back to the point that the good side is the side of the workers. That means meeting their material conditions now, who also ensuring that we fight for better material conditions for the future.
I think it’s exactly the point that me and lots of other people are making that proper work laws today is what saves working people from poverty today and tomorrow and that increasingly delegating the survival of working people to the kindness of others via social pressure and goodwill contributions diguised as tips instead of making sure they’re paid fair wages for fair work actually makes the situation worse over time because salaries keep falling and higher and higher gratuities are needed to make up for it.
In fact, the trend in the US when it comes to tips shows exactly that: over the years people kept doing what you say should be done and during that time the situation kept getting worse with a higher and higher tip required for people’s survival.
The natural long term unsustainability of that economic scheme is exactly the problem.
Meanwhile proper worker legislation has proven itself all over the World as a stable solution for working poverty amongst people working is restauration: in simple terms relying on tips for income has no track record anywhere in the World of guaranteeing that workers remain outside poverty whilst good worker legislation has a broad track record of keeping workers out of poverty.
You’re literally defending the anti-solution of “let’s avoid pain today even if it leads to solving the problem”, which just so happens to be very kind of messaging that makes the modern US have horrible insecure working conditions for anybody who is not a highly specialized worker or a member of one of the dwindling unions still around.
I’m not defending the anti-solution, I’m saying that the anti-solution is the only way to meet the material needs of these people right now. Capitalism is both the system that we live under and a system that should be dismantled, and these two things are not contradictary. You’re literally defending the idea of having a service rendered to you and then denying the human being that served you the means to feed themselves. Because why? Hopefully if you and others do it enough it will turn the tide and maybe there will be some massive uprising of service workers and then people will get paid a living wage? Exactly what are they supposed to do until then?
Which brings me back to the point that there are no Good Side in that.
Which brings me back to the point that the good side is the side of the workers. That means meeting their material conditions now, who also ensuring that we fight for better material conditions for the future.