Protest all you want. I’m not getting late to work because of you. I also care about the climate, but holding up traffic isn’t going to get me on your side
That’s because you only care about the status quo. Congrats, you’re part of the problem. Remember that if you’re ever confronted with rising flood waters with your boss saying you can’t leave. Just repeat “ I want this”
How does missing work help the climate? Genuine question, but I’ve been fired when a car broke down over the weekend, and I couldn’t get another one before Monday. I don’t see how it was better that I wound up spending the money I was saving for an electric car on an old junker so I didn’t miss rent and get evicted.
Edit: Just tell me you don’t have an answer instead of downvoting, this isn’t Reddit.
Yeah, we absolutely need to start with worker rights. I think part of the problem is that we in America have been on the nationalist train for so long that we’re simply unaware of how good it could be.
It’s nuts that people over here think my state law of 1 hour PTO awarded for every 40 hours worked is too much of a burden for employers.
I’d rather see disruptive action taken against gas stations, ICE car dealers, muffler shops, and other entities directly associated with the oil industry.
When JSO stops asking lawmakers to make “jaywalking” a felony offense, and they eventually get around to actually “stopping oil”, let me know.
You just didn’t like the translation of your words into their consequences.
Most Nazi civilians weren’t evil in any special unique way. They just didn’t care about any moral framework more than they cared about not having the status quo broken.
It’s an aspect of the banality of evil.
Your attitude, sadly the most common attitude, is the main driving force for the most heinous of outcomes.
Here it is being used to justify the literal end of the fucking human race and turning our planet into Venus.
Yeah bro get people who support your cause fired from their jobs so you can not actually do anything whatsoever to help your cause because you’re not doing anything to affect the actual people who are causing environmental collapse, you’re just fucking with other working class people trying to survive.
God forbid an ambulance or fire engine gets stuck there too. Or am I too much of a nazi for caring about solidarity?
Go to DC and protest the capitol steps. Block entrances to fossil fuel corpo offices. Do something actually meaningful; but you won’t because you don’t actually give as much of a fuck as you pretend you do, so you pick the lazy option and shit on people who tell you why it’s bad and pointless.
You aren’t going to join their side either way. You just care about getting to work on time. You only care about the climate as much as it affects your day to day life, so I wouldnt go around telling people I care about the climate if I was you.
Nope. Wrong again. These ad hominem attacks that assume my position do nothing to further discourse. I actively support and vote for eco-friendly parties, and would participate in protests if and only if they gained widespread traction. I’m not going to protest when most people don’t give enough of a fuck about climate. Disruptive protests will only create more dissent and worse amongst those that share the same sentiments.
The George Floyd protests would’ve never worked if they remained localized to Minnesota, were disruptive and had very few participants. It needed to be nationalized. The common people must also be united on the same goal. Most people don’t care enough about climate change yet to support disruptive protests. I’m simply trying to be practical and realise that the way most climate change activist groups are going about raising awareness isn’t working.
The JustStopOil protests have been going on for years and yet there’s been no action by any government. Wouldn’t it be smart to consider other avenues of awareness creation? A wise man once said, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”.
Protest all you want. I’m not getting late to work because of you
So are you gonna plow through them? Sounds like a sane response to being late for work.
And if you care about the climate I have bad news - we would already be on the same side, but you only care up to the point that it will impact you personally, and that is why you suck.
He said that it was an appropriate response to drive through protesters on a road because he might be late for work. And then doubled down on that being a normal response to being inconvenienced.
Iirc they didn’t even block the road. They hung signs and climbed into the poles above the road. The police blocked the road. This has all the energy of the police calling a protest a riot when they were the violent ones. They escalate it, blame the protestors, and people like you eat it up.
Get fucked you self-centered dickhead. Why go to work? What are you saving money for if it’s in serious danger of burning down? Can you eat your cash if it becomes worthless?
If you want the protesters gone, vote for the party that will give in to their demands. You seem like a practical sort who only cares about results. Give them what they want and they’ll go away.
Good. Next step: write an email to your representative saying you’re sick of these protesters and you want the government to do whatever they say so they’ll go away.
This is one of those nuanced positions that it appears Lemmy users are incapable of understanding.
It’s possible to simultaneously care about climate change and acknowledge that some protests are counter productive.
If you’d said “I don’t like to stop at the altar to pray for climate change action on my way to work because it seems pointless” that would’ve been a statement.
I think the core problem is that the majority of people just don’t care. The US just elected a president who will take no action. Protesting isn’t going to make people care.
Protest all you want. I’m not getting late to work because of you. I also care about the climate, but holding up traffic isn’t going to get me on your side
That’s because you only care about the status quo. Congrats, you’re part of the problem. Remember that if you’re ever confronted with rising flood waters with your boss saying you can’t leave. Just repeat “ I want this”
How does missing work help the climate? Genuine question, but I’ve been fired when a car broke down over the weekend, and I couldn’t get another one before Monday. I don’t see how it was better that I wound up spending the money I was saving for an electric car on an old junker so I didn’t miss rent and get evicted.
Edit: Just tell me you don’t have an answer instead of downvoting, this isn’t Reddit.
We in Europe forget that you yanks can get fired for things like a car break down or a protest stopping you from getting to work on time.
You should probably get some workers rights protests. Consider strikes.
Yeah, we absolutely need to start with worker rights. I think part of the problem is that we in America have been on the nationalist train for so long that we’re simply unaware of how good it could be.
It’s nuts that people over here think my state law of 1 hour PTO awarded for every 40 hours worked is too much of a burden for employers.
I’d rather see disruptive action taken against gas stations, ICE car dealers, muffler shops, and other entities directly associated with the oil industry.
When JSO stops asking lawmakers to make “jaywalking” a felony offense, and they eventually get around to actually “stopping oil”, let me know.
Nice, you completely misinterpreted my comment. Applaud yourself 👏👏
You muppet.
They didn’t.
You just didn’t like the translation of your words into their consequences.
Most Nazi civilians weren’t evil in any special unique way. They just didn’t care about any moral framework more than they cared about not having the status quo broken.
It’s an aspect of the banality of evil.
Your attitude, sadly the most common attitude, is the main driving force for the most heinous of outcomes.
Here it is being used to justify the literal end of the fucking human race and turning our planet into Venus.
Yeah bro get people who support your cause fired from their jobs so you can not actually do anything whatsoever to help your cause because you’re not doing anything to affect the actual people who are causing environmental collapse, you’re just fucking with other working class people trying to survive.
God forbid an ambulance or fire engine gets stuck there too. Or am I too much of a nazi for caring about solidarity?
Go to DC and protest the capitol steps. Block entrances to fossil fuel corpo offices. Do something actually meaningful; but you won’t because you don’t actually give as much of a fuck as you pretend you do, so you pick the lazy option and shit on people who tell you why it’s bad and pointless.
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Lost your words?
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edit: lmfao, that one impotent downvote.
“I’m not being late for work “. The rest was to make that statement not what it was.
You aren’t going to join their side either way. You just care about getting to work on time. You only care about the climate as much as it affects your day to day life, so I wouldnt go around telling people I care about the climate if I was you.
Nope. Wrong again. These ad hominem attacks that assume my position do nothing to further discourse. I actively support and vote for eco-friendly parties, and would participate in protests if and only if they gained widespread traction. I’m not going to protest when most people don’t give enough of a fuck about climate. Disruptive protests will only create more dissent and worse amongst those that share the same sentiments.
The George Floyd protests would’ve never worked if they remained localized to Minnesota, were disruptive and had very few participants. It needed to be nationalized. The common people must also be united on the same goal. Most people don’t care enough about climate change yet to support disruptive protests. I’m simply trying to be practical and realise that the way most climate change activist groups are going about raising awareness isn’t working.
The JustStopOil protests have been going on for years and yet there’s been no action by any government. Wouldn’t it be smart to consider other avenues of awareness creation? A wise man once said, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”.
That’s not true. Government have indeed acted in response to JSO protests.
They have increased penalties for jaywalking and obstructing traffic.
Vote harder next time!
They aren’t even reading what they write 🤣
As if it’s not the people who didn’t vote that caused the problem lmao
+1
Yeah I know, God forbid anything interrupt my employers steady exploitation of me for financial gain
Real protest vote to fight genocide and directly cause a demonstrably worse outcome vibes with this comment.
If they stop being exploited, they stop being able to pay their bills. Kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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So are you gonna plow through them? Sounds like a sane response to being late for work.
And if you care about the climate I have bad news - we would already be on the same side, but you only care up to the point that it will impact you personally, and that is why you suck.
We would already be on the same side, but you’re more focused on “making Jaywalking a Felony”.
JSO does not stand for “Just Stop (everyone except) Oil”.
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You wish you could murder people for making you late. That tells us all everything we need to know about you and what kind of person you are.
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You wish you could murder people who inconvenience you?
…well…i mean…yeah
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You are a terrible person, on the inside
As we can see, on the outside too.
No, i think I don’t like to be inconvenienced that’s what.
I hope you experience flooding and fires.
That is a good definition of a horrible person.
You’re the poster child for the banality of evil.
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And you think its normal to wish you could murder people without consequence?
I feel a lot of people held up in traffic by these protests have that wish. So even if not normal, it’s common.
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Go to anger management classes before you murder someone.
It is not acceptable to wish committing vehicular manslaughter against people who slightly annoy you.
What about Steve at the office? That guy REALLY annoys me. Is he fair game?
Anger management classes focus on directing anger appropriately, as opposed to lashing out against others.
JSO’s anger at the oil industry does not justify taking action against the general public.
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Quick anger management lesson for you: direct that anger at a car dealership that doesn’t have any electric vehicles on the lot.
Not at random people going about their business.
There is a reason for the difference between how society has reacted to school shooters vs Luigi.
Electric vehicles aren’t any sort of solution.
EVs aren’t a solution to any sort of problem that you know of or care about.
Er… the strategies given to people to manage their own emotional state don’t exactly translate to, you know, anything else. You gotta know that.
You are a fucking joke. Full stop.
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Is this dude a cunt? His comments got removed
He said that it was an appropriate response to drive through protesters on a road because he might be late for work. And then doubled down on that being a normal response to being inconvenienced.
Run of the mill conservative energy.
Yeah sounds like a rat bastard with no empathy, thanks
Iirc they didn’t even block the road. They hung signs and climbed into the poles above the road. The police blocked the road. This has all the energy of the police calling a protest a riot when they were the violent ones. They escalate it, blame the protestors, and people like you eat it up.
Get fucked you self-centered dickhead. Why go to work? What are you saving money for if it’s in serious danger of burning down? Can you eat your cash if it becomes worthless?
My god, so much lack of insight and foresight.
Unhinged take what the actual fuck
Get a brain, numbnuts.
The take is completely hinged.
If you want the protesters gone, vote for the party that will give in to their demands. You seem like a practical sort who only cares about results. Give them what they want and they’ll go away.
Who told you I don’t already vote for eco-friendly parties?
Good. Next step: write an email to your representative saying you’re sick of these protesters and you want the government to do whatever they say so they’ll go away.
This is one of those nuanced positions that it appears Lemmy users are incapable of understanding.
It’s possible to simultaneously care about climate change and acknowledge that some protests are counter productive.
If you’d said “I don’t like to stop at the altar to pray for climate change action on my way to work because it seems pointless” that would’ve been a statement.
I think the core problem is that the majority of people just don’t care. The US just elected a president who will take no action. Protesting isn’t going to make people care.
I hope they don’t organise marathons or street fairs where you’re at, or worse, resurface a road.
What’re you gonna do about it then?