Much of France was set to experience temperatures of around 40C on Tuesday, after records were shattered on Monday
Forty people have drowned in France over the past days as they sought to cool down to escape record heat, the prime minister said on Tuesday, as a heatwave swept across much of Europe.
Speaking ahead of an emergency meeting on the heatwave, French Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu said: “A sad scourge when it comes to drownings, as the latest figures just reported to us show 40 deaths since June 18, most of them young people.”
Across France, people have been jumping into canals and rivers to cool off. French sports minister Marina Ferrari said she understood the urge to escape the heat but warned against swimming in unauthorized or dangerous areas.
48 dead from swimming. How does france suck at swimming so bad?
I remember an early heatwave in russia they had a bunch of deaths from drunk people going in the (still very cold) water and it stopping their hearts.
I can’t imagine that is what is going on in france here in late june though.
People in France commonly die of shock cooling and riptides. That’s beyond your imagination though.
okay, that sounds like a very low and very high number of drownings at the same time. quick and dirty analysis. 40 deaths due to one cause in one day is alarming even when your metropolitan population is 66 million. Normally there are 1,000 drowning deaths per year. Ish. That’s 1/25th the budgeted drownings for the country in a single [time period oopsie misread the article. maybe 5 days? point still stands]. Like, 40 is a small absolute number but per capita per [short time period] it’s a LOT.
hence the government emergency meeting.
I remember the old sunoco’s.
Anyone read The Ministry For The Future? There’s a horrifying wet-bulb event that occurs in the book. It happens in India. People just dying by the hundreds, stewing in any water they can find to cool off. It’s looking very likely to occur this century. In the book, this causes some changes, some of which are implemented very aggressively. Sad to think it may be the only way people get on board with fixing this stuff.
People are already dying in droves in India while Modi stubbornly insists climate change isn’t real.
Climate change is not real but god is. Lol
Yes your god is real because he survived all those other gods from thousands of years ago
Or the gods as the case may be in India.
Amen 🙏
The part mentioning the water was no cooler than the warm air but people still jumped in believing they were getting some relief was really heavy. The only way to convince those in power of the threat global warming poses is if it happens in a place like the Hamptons or Beverly Hills.
To anyone reading, if you find yourself in this situation: water above 37 degrees will make things worse. You’re better off outside. Put water on your skin, not the other way around. Put yourself in front of a ventilator for maximum effect. It’s water evaporating from your skin that will cool you.
Where is the water ever going to be above 37 degrees celsius outside of a scummy little pond though?
The water here never gets that warm around here outside of small stagnant ponds, and any that does will get cynabacteria and kill anything that drinks from it.
In a heat dome. After a couple of days under the dome everything will have a cozy 28-30 C and then you add some sun to water and voila
You’re right, maybe my warning is for nothing.
Maybe in a small swimming pool exposed to the sun, or even a kids inflatable pool even in shade after a while?
It’s hard to believe that it’s now cooler in Morocco than in France.
All my clients and coworkers across Europe have been roasting. They can’t believe when I say I’ve been under 28 degrees for the past 6 months here in Rabat
Holy fuck but yes. My home city is cooler than France and I’m from a fucking desert. This is insane.
Climate change is totally not a problem guys its totally fine.
Especially because we don’t need food and food like growing up in XTREME climates.
Yeah maybe don’t jump straight into unknown water. Walk in slowly from the edge if it’s possible, if not perhaps find another entry point to start from. For rivers swim up stream to explore it so if the current gets stronger you are just pushed back to your starting point.
Please translate to french
Si maeibuel douinout joumpe sraeight ointou uoaeinounouwen aoquoa.
Je suis Napoleon, du France!
Je suis m’apelle.
Bonjour m’appelle je suis Dad.
Cwasson
À l’eau - c’est l’heure.
Je te hais et j’espère que tu mourras dans d’atroces souffrances.
Mettez l’eau en vous. Ne vous mettez pas dans l’eau.
Mettez de l’eau sur vous.
The other sentence is perfect.
40C is 104F, which on its own doesn’t feel that hot to me. It must be humid too I’m guessing.
40C outside means that for most people at least 32C inside. And most people don’t have AC.
Lol, 40°C is insanely hot for humans. Everything over 30 is super hot, over 35 is dangerous.
Add humidity to that and expect people to die from the heat alone.
It really depends on what you’re acclimated to. I lived on a farm throughout high school, so I got to build fence lines and pock crops all day long in triple digits (F) with over 90% humidity (my region is technically a rainforest).
But I was used to the weather; I grew up in it. I’m definitely not going to criticize anyone who hasn’t had to deal with it on a regular basis, especially when no one has AC.
You’re simply wrong about your own experience there.
At 90% humidity and 100 F the heat index is 176 F which is astronomical.
A heat index at 125 F is lethal to any human being eventually…at 176 F you’re dead in 15 minutes.
Either the temperature was lower, the humidity was lower.
Lots of people take the temperature high point they see and the humidity high point they see on the weather forecast and assume they happen at the same time. That’s generally not the case.
So people say “it was 100 degrees and 90% humidity”, when actually it was only 50% humidity at the hottest part of the day and something like 80 degrees when humidity was 90% in the evening.
Everyone’s guilty of this. They’ve experienced a really hot and humid day, they then tell the story with the 2 highest numbers because it felt really hot.
It’s an accidental embellishment and ultimately leads some people to die of heat stroke as “they’ve worked through worse” in their own mind when the warnings come in with numbers they think they’ve experienced before but haven’t in reality.
Above 100F is where it’s considered critical, where the body can no longer dissipate heat through the environment.
Can’t truly understand this F language. I speak C.
Won’t this be related to the humidity/wet bulb temp?
Humidity makes it even worse.
That, but ultimately it’s about time. Like how 100C water gives you a burn instantly, but so does 40C, if you sit in it for 8 hours.
If your body can’t cool itself, you will eventually overheat and die. And the limit for a certain death (eventually) is 35C (95F) wet bulb - at that point even a perfectly healthy person at rest produces enough heat to bring their core temp to over 43C and die.
Acclimation plays a huge role in it.
Bro I worked farms in Nebraska in the summer, you’re mistaking health and youth for acclimation
Not at that point.
43C is 109F, which is what the headline says.
Ah was reading the body of the post, which says “around 40C.” 109 sucks but it’s still bearable if it’s not humid. Humidity with that temp is what makes it a killer.
Europe is humid, it’s not a desert yet. It’s not like Arizona with dry heat or whatever you are imagining.
What you’re saying is true, but only under specific circumstances. If you’re conditioned for it and you take precautions, if this is your daily, it’s doable. 109 with very low humidity, a nice breeze, in the shade, with dessert clothing, and a healthy supply of clean water, is ez if you are used to it and know what to do.
If you aren’t used to it, or don’t know what to do, or it’s 40% humidity, or there is no shade and you’re letting the sun hit your skin, etc, will easily kill you. This is France my man. Not wherever you’re from. These temps, just hitting the normal vegetation will ensure the humidity is unbearable. Much less everything else.
Oh… 40% is where it starts getting dangerous already? I assumed that’s low humidity.
humidity in france is normally between 65% and 95%
Tbh with you I think it’s lower than that when the temps are over 100, much less over 110. However, I don’t know the exact number. I think it depends on other factors. In a situation where we’re talking about regular folks having to do several specific things to survive, humidity easily breaks our little scenario.
I can tell you that I’m from the swamp. I can do up to around 103 with humidity over 70% but the cone for survival begins to narrow dramatically above 95. In the desert with humidity at 14%, I was completely fine at 110 even in the sun for periods of time. Like, I thought it was in the high 80s.
But, I can sweat gallons as long as I have water. That’s what my body is conditioned to do. In the actual, ancient desert, without constant access to water, I’m dead. I assume most people can’t just sweat two gallons a day, drink two gallons and eat some spicy food, and be ok tomorrow again. I also assume actual desert natives handle 110 different than me too, in a more desert sustainable way.
If we’re talking about bare survival of a healthy or generationally conditioned person, able to do the right things, with access to everything they need, I think you’re right 40% doesn’t break things, but I assume none of those things apply in France.
It’s relative, Europe live in buildings meant to keep the heat in made of brick or concrete where as where you live probably has bungalows made of timber suited to the climate in your area
Brick really retains heat I hear. I don’t doubt concrete and stone can as well.
The AC situation in Europe is a little rough. I stayed in Paris in a niceish hotel and the AC could not keep up with the heat when I was there. It was maybe a 10 degree difference inside vs out, and the humidity did not drop much. This was 10 years ago so maybe more places have better ac now, but I don’t think every place had AC then.
A 10 degree difference might not feel cold and comfy but it is absolutely life saving.
Depends on the country and the region within. The further you move south, the more ACs you’ll see. Up until recently, there wasn’t a reason for countries north of italy to have AC everywhere.
Ya we had to do that here in Maine about 10 years ago.
