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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’

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Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’

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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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Air Force Official: Ukraine to Protect Its F-16 Fighter Fleet by Basing Planes ‘in Other Countries’
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The Kremlin has vowed any NATO personnel helping Kyiv attack Russia would be legitimate targets.
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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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    While I think that’s dope it does feel like it gives Russia valid cause to strike them in host countries and kind of feels like a deliberate provocation to do so?

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      Russia doesn’t actually want NATO get involved so they wouldn’t strike the host nation.

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        • NeuronautML@lemmy.ml
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          Russia has stated many things which are often contradictory and false.

          Regardless, attacking NATO countries would be strategic insanity.

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            they are insane tho, but putin don’t want to die, and their fuxked up defense system can’t cope with the ammount of missiles that gonna rain in his head

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              They’re not insane: everything they’ve done are things they sincerely thought they could get away with, and up until Ukraine Putin has been correct in that regard.

              Pretending to be crazy is an effective strategy: ironically Nixon popularized it during the cold war.

              Attacking targets in NATO countries (even if “justified”) is going to drastically increase the odds NATO gets directly involved in Ukraine – something Putin absolutely doesn’t want.

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            • NeuronautML@lemmy.ml
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              It’s not even politics, It’s just math. NATO has superiority in economy, industrial output, operational equipment and manpower.

              Plus they’re too close to Russia for asymmetric warfare rules.

              I would bet on it, but I’d sure as hell wish we could all get along instead.

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            • jaschen@lemm.ee
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              Um… Is NATO weaker with the addition of Sweden and Finland? I’m not sure what your definition of “weak” means. I thought having more allies is not weak.

        • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world
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          “Russia states” lmao

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          They also stated they won’t attack Ukraine.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            • Vilian@lemmy.ca
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              • carl_marks[use name]@lemmy.ml
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                people enter nato

                the famous nato referendums

                stop vomiting russia propaganda

                citing nato is russian propaganda lmao

        • CptEnder@lemmy.world
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          If it’s a NATO country the F-16s are the least of their worries and find out what a real 3 day operation looks like.

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          Russia can’t afford to escalate.

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            It already worked once.

            • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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              Well the second best army is not performing anywhere near expectations. Russia should finish one fight theycan’t go the distance on before picking on NATO.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      • InputZero@lemmy.ml
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        This comment is for anyone who is experiencing nuclear-phobia, kinda like I do, to which I strictly mean living with a state of fear or dread about a nuclear apocalypse, this development does puts the world one step closer. It’s okay to be scared by that, I know I am. It doesn’t mean the world is one step away from a nuclear apocalypse. The world has been closer to the brink of nuclear war before and we’re all still here. It’s okay to breathe.

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          I don’t know where you get your nuclear vibes from, but we have hardly been closer, actually.

          Six months ago: Doomsday Clock remains at a minute and a half to midnight in 2024—closest ever to apocalypse

          And things have only worse since then. This week: Russian warships, nuclear submarine enter Havana Harbor under watch of U.S. destroyers

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        Russia has stated many things they will do, but haven’t then actually done. Why would this time be different? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          • sweng@programming.dev
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            There are sources given for the claims. If they are inaccurate you should remove the sources, and the claim itself if there are no good sources supporting it anymore.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              • sweng@programming.dev
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                Again, if a source is incorrect, feel free to remove it.

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            Russia is well aware that if they use nuclear weapons it’s over for them, will the rest of the world fall too is another question.

            Either way I truly don’t believe they will do it simply because that ends Russia in its current form, and I don’t think we should allow them to be an aggressor just because they have nukes. Russia needs to be stopped and their saber rattling should rightly be ignored.

            Feel free to @ me if you die in a nuclear apocalypse to prove me wrong. Till then let’s keep enabling Ukraine to fight back and continue Russias massive embarrassment and degradation of power and capabilities.

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              • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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                Mind sharing some sources on that? Since it is a bit of a bold statement.

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      • Zetta@mander.xyz
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        Russia said they would nuke the west 10 times already, they have rattled the saber too much and nobody believes the threat.

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          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/how-real-is-putins-threat-to-nuke-the-west

            Or do you mean the ones made on state TV in 2022 that the Kremlin now says never happened?

            https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-putin-didnt-threaten-use-nuclear-weapons-us-took-him-out-context-2024-03-14/

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              • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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                Almost like saying that Russia would “nuke” the west…

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        good, now we know that they are in fact not do that

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        I would be shocked if Russia did, the west has been pretty limited with allowing Ukrainian strikes with western systems on Russia even to this day. Like it or not I don’t think they would attempt to strike another country because they are scared of relatiation.

        I would be happy to be wrong, because if they do I think the west would join the war or allow Ukraine more Freedom with their systems. Either way the net outcome is Russians still loosing the long game, like they currently are

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    Still waiting for the “F-16s delivered to Ukraine” headline instead of these useless stall articles showing off the mistake of not sending them 2 years ago >:(

    spoiler

    Seriously they’re guarding base block F-16s, but a whole fleet of F-15s for Israel is fine because money.

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      It’s all about training. Pilots are one matter. Repair and maintenance crews are another. It’s going to take time unfortunately. Money and logistics aren’t the issue here though.

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        Motherfucker they’re going to base the planes in Romania. What repair and maintenance crews do they need that don’t already exist?

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          Motherfucker… They ain’t basing ALL the planes in other countries… They have to fly the planes out of ukraine if they want to use them or the west is risking being dragged into the war by being a direct participant. No one is prepared for this yet. They are preparing however…

          I feel your pain bro but look into the issue first before talking like a dipshit. Realize that this stuff doesn’t happen overnight please.

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    Recipe for disaster…

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    Surely this wunderwaffe will be the one to turn the tides of the war, and ensure the success of the Mariupol counteroffensive!

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    Based

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