• justaman123@lemmy.world
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    The matrix being absolutely right about the 2000s being the high water mark of American culture still feels me with angst

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      the 2000s being the high water mark of American culture

      I’m sorry, but no. You can’t say anything before My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is the high water mark. Gotta be at least 2010.

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        Just to clarify I’m not saying the matrix was a high water mark. In that movie it literally said the 90-00s was the peak of humanity.

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    I was ten in 1976 and y’all would not believe what a coast to coast extreme party it was for the entire year. Drawers filled with souvenirs!! There was so much!

    And now? This.

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      Same here. We Canadians partied right alongside you in 1976. It was awesome. I looked forward to the blast that America at 250 would be. What a sad waste of potential the US has become.

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      Nice, I was -9, but I’m so glad you guys had a good time. I imagine they handed out free money, groceries, and houses. Doctors just randomly circulated amongst the crowds checking people’s health…

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Rome lasted a thousand years, and has become a benchmark for nationalist regimes that imagine they’re ushering in a new golden age (right before they run out of money and attack Poland). NSDAP was notorious about aspiring to a thousand-year reich which they obviously did not achieve.

        The US is making similar golden age noises.

        Checking Wikipedia, the British empire was ~450 years, so I’d be interested in examples of ~250 year reigns.

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          Rome lasted a thousand years

          Not true. Byzantium lasted a thousand years. The Roman empire lasted no more than 500.

          As for the rest, well, fuck fascists.

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              We were talking about empires.

              Britain still exists as a polity, but the British Empire no longer does, so we say the British Empire lasted such-and-such number of years, because it’s already a thing of the past.

              If we’re talking about how long political systems last, it’s going to get very abstract if we count different political systems as one just because they had the same capital (and sometimes not even that), or the same imperial core, or the same ethno-culturo-linguistic citizenry (or rather, first-class citizenry).

              It gets increasingly difficult to define continuity if we start claiming the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire were actually the same political entity.

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                I get that. I only mention it because what people think of as Ancient Rome should include the Republic too, but if you want to be strict about defining only the time it was an empire then that’s fine. America often gets referred to as an empire but it technically isn’t one in the original meaning of the word, however it’s probably the closest it’s ever been to being one today.

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      I was stuck in a traffic jam just outside DC on 4 July 1976. At the time it was the second biggest traffic jam in US history (Woodstock was worse). We could see the fireworks in the distance.

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        Demonized already, by the Christofascists, PC would be an unacceptable word. the “Power Christian” is to make clear he isn’t “woke”. Ensuring he is indeed politically correct.

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          I know, I’m just pointing out that since they took over the government, being an evil asshole is now what’s “politically correct.”

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    As a musician, I always support other musicians, but I’ll make an exception for MAGA musicians. You thought you’d get MAGA cred from the massive crowds, and it would be worth losing your fan base of decent, moral people.

    Except there were no massive crowds, so all you did was lose whatever fan base you had.

    MAGA entertainment is for losers.

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      Four of those seven people are press covering the event.

      Of the remaining three, two are die-hard MAGA enthusiasts getting high on hate, and the third is a dementia patient who has no idea where they are or who’s on stage.

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          Populist culture puppets paid for by billionaires’ coordinated influence machines. Aren’t they all now? Seeing what I see now, I’ve questioned every single band that ever rose to prominence on any national stage because we had a few folks from my local music scene we knew OF and met but they never played one regional nor even required gig locally and did NOT earn their local organic gig stripes before their rise to national prominence.

          Rage Against the Machine allowed to exist from a few public park gigs to full stadium/record label signing tours makes way more sense in today’s hindsight 20/20 because I always questioned how truly organic their meteoric rise was. I really want to believe in Tom Morello being authentic but already I’m too betrayed by the machine’s mechanism of co-option to trust any manufactured rage against it that rose from within it now. IDK anymore and that’s the point. Anyone got a sanity check against me for this thinking?

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    Both of the security guards must have been challenged keeping all 7 people away from the stage