New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani, once a figure of contention among leaders from both major political parties, has seen a remarkable surge in his political standing just six months into office.
The 34-year-old democratic socialist, a prominent figure on the progressive left, has garnered unexpected praise from both Donald Trump and New York Governor Kathy Hochul.
He has also emerged as the face of the region’s sports renaissance. Now, days before New York’s primary elections,
As he should. We need to take any populist progressive momentum we have and use it to run the Democrats out of town. Along with the republicans. The two parties are just a black hole of corporate money.
Electing someone who is actually DOING STUFF for the city he’s elected to run? I mean, yeah we should totally hate that. 😩
Yeah, wtf is wrong with Mamdani.
Doesnt he know hes supposed to make big promises, then do none of it while giving handies to CEOs in his office before selling his citizens out for literal pennies per person?
electing someone who even understands what their job even is seems to be a welcome change. Schumer claims his whole job is keeping the dems in line with what a foreign power wants. And almost all of congress seem sto agree. Thats not their job at all. And that rot goes top to bottom through both parties. The president and judiciary also dont seem to understand what their jobs are anymore. Cops too, no frickin idea what they do exactly.
Progressives have been hoping for someone like Mamdani to actually win an election for a long time, now. If he is what finally instigates a break in the wall the Democratic party has erected, it’s not surprising that others are picking up their sledgehammers.
But leftists are both useless and totally destructive at the same time according to neo-liberals.
I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.
There are Leftists in this thread who are saying Mamdani’s no good because he hasn’t done everything he promised.
the Democratic Party is a lot less monolithic than people make it out to be, it’s just that a lot of influential people in the back end have been fighting to keep progressives out, arguing that they needed to stay close to republicans to win “moderate” voters.
More visible progressive wins will erode that narrative and allow various parts of the coalition to abandon the neoliberal orthodoxy imposed on them by corporate consultants. We can’t get anywhere untill that dead weight is dropped. Maybe the Democratic Party won’t be the one to adapt to the new conditions, maybe something new will take their place, but nothing is going to happen till that narrative is dead.
The Democratic Party has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of politicians in it. From far left to center right.
Who cares if the Dems go progressive? It’s the voters who are important. The Republicans kept resisting the rising far right movements like the Tea Party, and then MAGA, but the voters just bulldozed right over them.
The corporatist establishment Democrats all made it extremely clear that they would prefer a corrupt asshole like Adams for Mayor, but the people told them to go fuck themselves, and now the DNC has no choice but to get on board.
The voters don’t have to do what the DNC demands, but the DNC has to live with whoever the voters force upon them.
True leftists, like any medium-small minority, can make or break any coalition of medium-small minorities. And likewise, they can’t really direct policy all on their own, because the rest of the minorities in the coalition aren’t on board yet. One minority can’t make it, but they can break it.
I also hope this brings progressivism to the Democratic party. That would be a good way to bring more of the coalition on board.
Thank you!
The thing that drives me crazy is when progressives act like they have a massive majority of the people behind them.
Back in the day, Jerry Falwell leveraged his Moral Majority into power by sending his church people into every local GOP club.
If the usual attendance was twenty folks, the MMs would show up with fifty. They might only have fifty followers in the whole town, but all of them were there where it counted.
Leftists already attacked him for not firing the cops involved in last winter’s snowball fight.
Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,
Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes
Thank goodness he wasn’t getting more help from the Left.
We have a real bad “No True Scotsman” problem
This is how MAGA took over the republicans.
Now we just have to convince leftists to get out and vote in the primaries and generals which might be a chore.
Except the leftists did vote that’s why he’s there? Maybe it’s because he wasn’t a shit tier neo-liberal candidate like the Democrats have put up in the last election.
He was up against Cuomo in NYC.
I’m pretty sure Hitler could run as a democrat there and win.
Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,
Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes
I imagine you’ll struggle to find any locally elected politician anywhere who got a bigger turnout than that for the presidential race.
There were early voting options in that election.
Mamdani was very lucky because the incumbent, Adams, got caught in a major scandal before the election.
But even running against a know sex offender and a radio DJ he only garnered 51% of the vote.
Things are different now that he’s been elected, but let’s not pretend that he was swept in by a giant Progressive wave.
Sex offender and a radio dj… Do you not know Trump is president?
So you agree? That progressives aren’t that popular in america?
You know how many comments I’ve seen from lefties calling him a liberal plant? Never gonna happen.
Can you tell me his accomplishments?
Fixed the NYC budget within 100 days of taking office.
Got shitty landlords to fix thousands of apartments.
Didn’t bend the knee to wealthy people.
Doesn’t talk in empty platitudes like the typical DNC centrist Zionist.
Prove thousands of apartments are fixed.
You wouldn’t look at the proof and just ask another loaded question and move the goalposts anyway
A list of items isn’t proof. It’s asking for sources. Which they did. Thanks for your input.
The only thing leftists are good for is destroying their own chances of creating a political party then blaming the liberals for it.
Not, you know, workers rights, the weekend, higher wages, greater social mobility, higher standards of living, higher wages etc?
Try listing an accomplishment from the last seventy-five years.
Where did those goal posts go?
What was the most recent accomplishment of the six that you listed?
How about China lifting 100 million people out of poverty in 10 years between 2010 and 2020? Seems pretty significant if you ask me.
you know mamdani is still a democrat right? He is still approved by the richoids of america, y’know the guys who’ve been terrorizing the world for decades, and he already gave up on being anti cop. Ultimately guys like him are just there to fool you that the system can be change by voting, doing slight improvement so the system survives until it can take those improvements away.
The system has improved by voting. Like, take a quick gander through history. We’re in a down trend right now, and we need to fight, and fight to improve the system, but to deny that the system can change by voting is to deny history
No, the system never ever improved by voting. It only ever improved in response to fear of revolution, and any “improvement” through voting was nothing more than a temporary concession, Britain used to be the face of social democracy then Thatcher came and since then standard of living has been constantly getting lower, Obama brought Obama care(which was absolutely not enough) because Occupy wallstreet happened, then trump came and gutted it. You can’t change and improve a system that’s built to keep you down, by working from inside of it
As I said. Denying history.
When has ever long lasting improvement came from voting then?
14th amendment ring any bells?
19th amendment?
24th?
You think these changes came just from magic? No, they came from concentrated work of activist groups, and that strongly includes elections. You underestimate the effect of pushing people into elections that are sympathetic to the causes, even if it’s not too many.
These were results of constant battles and fighting until the ruling class was forced to give concessions.
Yeah sure buddy. Sure the voting meant nothing. Sure.
Occupy Wall Street: 2011
Obamacare: 2010
sorry, my mistake. i mixed up some events in my memory
I’m not partial to some of his politics, but he seems like a genuinely good guy. Both parties need more good and young guys and gals, Republicans most of all, but Democrats too.
With enough people like Mamdani, we could finally advance beyond a two party system.
Amazing what electing somebody who wasn’t born in the 1940s can do!
There are tons of young fascists.
are there? hard to say with none of them in charge of anything.
Seems to me when we get the boomers out of the way, a lot of problems also go away. ever notice how racism and sexism is much more prevalent and “normal” with older people? Stands to reason that putting those people in care homes and out of power would make drastic improvements to society.
Are you familiar with the Joshua Generation at all? Literally a training ground for christo-fascists that trained former and current senators.
There’s absolutely young fascists currently in charge. Heck “DOGE” was nothing but a bunch of 20 somethings allowed to enact part of their fascist wet dream.
Putting the blame on age and not class is why you’re getting so ratiod
Ratioed? Kharma’s not a thing here so who cares. And maybe I’ve just met more old people than you have.
Also your Joshua generation thing doesnt show a prevalance for idiocy in youth, just that some exists. Idiocy in the elderly is a fact of life. Brains dont get better as they age, and the context they grew up in doesnt keep up with the times they live into. I dont care if people like it, people dont get smarter or more relevant to the times as they age.There’s not karma but it’s still a good sign of how many people disagree with your argument and experience.
Your original comment was to someone saying “there’s plenty of young fascists”. Didn’t say anything about prevalence, just that there’s enough to be a problem. That’ prevalence argument is bullshit you added. You’ve said they aren’t in charge of anything. You were given direct evidence of examples of young fascists existing and being in charge of things.
You trying to make it an age based thing is just asking for trouble because it’s setting up complacency instead of fighting the fascists no matter who they are.
“I’ve met more old people than you” is such a dumb and weak argument I legitimately don’t even know where to begin there.
That’ prevalence argument is bullshit you added.
No. Using inductive thinking is the bullshit you started with. You cant use a small sample size to make generalizations across a group of people. You have to deal with any discussion of a group of people by talking about them in terms of proportionality or percentages. You cant say “mushroommonk on Lemmy doesnt underdstand the most basic logic, so clearly no one on Lemmy understands basic logic.” Thatd be bullshit. Get it?
Except the group being discussed is the group of young fascists. That’s it. The entire group is the ones that exist. Your false equivalence trying to extrapolate from there is adding another group.
Please just go learn some basic reading comprehension. I’m not the only one to point this out.
I’m out
I think it depends on your definition of “young”, but there are the folks like Kyle Rittenhouse, Jacob Chansley, Ben Shapiro, and tons of other netizens younger than Joe Rogan with their hate-mongering podcasts. Being emboldened in the way they are, more seem to be popping out of the woodwork instead of being shamed or reformed into better viewpoints.
So if you can name 4 shitty young people then all young people are shitty, thats your assertion?
Unfortunately, these are all young people with a vast following of young people. Not to mention Charlie Kirk, Andrew Tate…
Young people skew left and that’s a fact, it’s not a supermajority like it might seem on places like this.
reshaping the imperialist party to fund healthcare of americans instead of giving it to billionaires. He has no problem with the imperialism part
I just explained what socialism means when it is preceded by “democratic” in the west
He’s not very socialist, no. But based on your take that socialists on the west are imperialist simply for existing within an imperialist nation, something tells me you think anyone who’s the enemy of the USA must be great. (Do correct me). And that usually ends up being tankies.
He’s been outspoken on the genocide in Gaza, at least. Which is one of the USA’s proxy imperialist projects.
USA, Russia, China, they’re all terrible in their own way. We don’t get to choose where we’re born.
I’m a socialist (edit: not a “democratic socialist”, like actually a socialist who wants revolution and institution of a worker controlled society) in Australia. Am I okay with imperialism too because of Australia’s actions?
In conclusion, Mamdani isn’t gonna bring about socialism, but he’s certainly not as bad as you’re describing (that I can tell, so far).
No, according to me socialists in the west are imperialist because they behave like that. How many times has zohran spoken about gaza after getting elected? I think its 0. I think anyone against the US isnt great, but they are better. I dont mind you calling me tankie, I support the soviet union, cuba, vietnam, maoist china, etc.
USA is clearly by far the most terrible of those nations. We must apply the lesser evilism that liberals apply in every election.
Mamdani allows west bank land sales in NY synagouges, he isnt that bad if your moral compass revolves around western left
From what I can tell Mamdani has been speaking our against these events. So he’s spoken about Gaza at least once since election… Though I am neither from NYC nor the US, so don’t know in great detail.
Again, Mamdani isn’t a socialist, and isn’t gonna bring about any sort of meaningful restructure of US society. But it seems like a stretch to say he’s actively supporting US imperialism given the scope of his power.
Lesser evilism only really applies when no other choice exists. In the US voting system, you must vote for the lesser evil, because first past the post is trash. The part that people haven’t been doing at large scale is still continuing to bring about change outside the terrible voting system, 1. at a minimum to fix the voting system and 2. to build workers movements that use things like, unionism, general strikes, protests, boycotts and eventually revolution to overthrow the ruling class by (mostly) peaceful means by numbers (and probably some violence when there’s inevitably a retaliation by the ruling class).
But not voting in the US and feeling high and mighty about it is really stupid.
Luckily, in Australia, we can at least preference, meaning we don’t need to deal with that particular hurdle. Though it’s still not democratic as representatives are unrecallable, and like all capitalist counties, the real power is with the capitalist class who put their finger on the scale to get their desired outcomes.
Lesser evilism in the context of world governments is absurd (i.e. supporting Russia, China, Iran, etc just because they’re not the USA), especially socialists who believe in international worker solidarity.
We get absolutely nothing but supporting totalitarian regimes, be they in the US, Russia, China etc. We ought to be supporting workers in all countries to achieve socialism, not bloody the ones in power just because their ruling class are enemies of the US ruling class… (and for the record, China, Russia and Vietnam are all capitalist countries… one needs to delude themselves to believe otherwise).
In conclusion, it’s weird that you don’t mind being called a tankie, because it hints are your disregard for democracy and self-determination.
And by definition you can’t really call yourself a socialist if you don’t believe in democracy, since how else can a society be “worker controlled” if the workers don’t get a say over society…
But not voting in the US and feeling high and mighty about it is really stupid.
I never said to “not vote” I just said vote 3rd party
Lesser evilism in the context of world governments is absurd
No its not, you are engaging in western chauvinism
Your mistake is that you think all working class across all countries operate on same frequency while thats not the truth, working class of imperial core benefits from imperialism and thats why they are very lenient. The american worker manufactures weapons which are then used to bomb iranians or palestinains, american worker got the money, he is then brainwashed through media, workers of different nations operate on different layers thats why widespread worker solidarity without addressing the leniency of many workers is bullshit.
it’s weird that you don’t mind being called a tankie
Tankie is a slur used online against anyone who supports soviet union, maoist china, castros cuba, ho chi minh’s vietnam etc. In that sense I am a tankie and these experiments were far more democratic than whatever west offers.
