• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    Pope Francis has triggered a backlash from Jewish groups who see his comments over the Israeli-Palestinian war as accusing both Hamas and Israel of “terrorism.”

    The pontiff met Jewish families with relatives held hostage by Hamas, and Palestinians with families still in the Gaza Strip. He told an audience in St. Peter’s Square in the Vatican City that he recognized suffering on both sides, saying: “This is what wars do. But here we have gone beyond wars. This is not war. This is terrorism.”

    He couldn’t have made a more milquetoast remark about this war. For fuck’s sake…

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      Yeah, but he’s still being accused of shit by Israel for saying it…

      Hell, there was a orthodox (very conservative) rabbi that had to flee his home in Israel, because he said the dead Innocents on both sides should be mourned.

      Right wing Israelis showed up outside his house, and started throwing “fireworks” into his house in an attempt to burn him and his family alive for it. He ended up having to flee Israel because cops and the IDF wouldn’t do anything to keep the mobs away

      He spoke out against Israels government, so Israels government wouldn’t do anything to protect him or his children.

      It’s like KKK, yeah., they hated certain races/religions/sexualities, but there’s nothing they hated more than a straight white Christian who said they were going to far.

      Above all else racists absolutely despise someone of their own race who pushes for bare minimum equality.

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        I don’t know if you’re thinking of someone else who experienced something similar, but it sounds like you might be describing Israel Frey. I don’t think he’s a rabbi, I think he’s a journalist.

        But yeah, folks should look him up. Last i heard, he was in hiding.

        Also, it’s indisputable that Israeli settlers are committing acts of terrorism. If one wants to argue that the IDF is committing terrorism, I’d agree with that too, but one cannot say that Israel is not committing terrorism when folks in balaclavas in pickup trucks are breaking into homes in villages and smashing everything and telling the families living there to move out the next day or be killed. And soldiers have been caught participating.

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          And soldiers have been caught participating.

          It’s even worse. If the owners of these homes defend themselves, the IDF steps in… to defend the settlers.

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        And this is the big thing that people who say Israel is united in their attack overlook, all the moderates in the country are afraid to speak out. The Pope was right, they literally are a terrorist nation at this point.

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        The term the racists use for other members of their race who disagree with them is race betrayer. At least I’ve been called that by neonazis when arguing with them.

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      and yet it still somehow manages to be better than John Kirby’s quisling response …

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      He couldn’t have made a more milquetoast remark about this war. For fuck’s sake…

      He’s the voice of moral leadership for millions of people. He’s not the CEO of Pepsi. Being frank about this is kind of his job.