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  • Nah, if they didn’t have nukes and US backing (which is likely how they have nukes)…

    Then they wouldn’t act like they’re untouchable and wouldn’t commit so many genocides against neighboring countries…

    Like, what you’re doing is saying the schoolyard bully has to be a bully because no one likes them. Ignoring the fact that the reason no one likes them is they keep beating up smaller kids.

    They can stop being a bully anytime and the situation would improve. Getting mad at the bullied kids because they don’t like the bully makes no logical sense.

    Like, you expect people to just ignore when a different country attacks yours and kills your children?

    That’s just water under the bridge and they should get over it?

    It’s their fault for responding to violence with violence instead of meekly allowing themselves to be exterminated?

    Do you even read what you type?

    Or do you legitimately just not understand what’s happening?








  • Can you point out where they say “if wage earners think both parties won’t help”?

    To avoid confusion because it seems likely:

    If you’re a wage earner in this country, your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point

    A more indepth response:

    What you linked:

    Weird. A bug in the app switched up my replies.

    What I intended to say was:

    I can understand. If you’re a wage earner in this country, your life does not change in any significant way based on who we elect, so why skip a badly needed day’s pay to vote? There’s just no point.

    And when you point this out to other people, all you get in response are excuses.

    They’re explicitly saying that the people whom didn’t vote, didn’t vote because both parties are too similar and won’t help. They’re saying those people need more than “not trump” to vote D.

    I’m struggling to see where your confusion is coming from.

    If this still doesn’t make sense, can you try asking for clarification in greater detail?

    It just seems so obvious to me.

    And this isn’t a new conversation, we’ve been having it since 2016, it’s been 8 years man… Hell, really 12 because we started seeing the drop in 2012 when we realized Obama wasn’t who he said in 08

    What aren’t you getting about this?

    Like, this is the bare bones basics of modern political history in America… Go back decades and the most likely response from a non voter about why they didn’t vote is “neither party will actually help”.

    You never learned any of this stuff, like, ever?___




  • I think you’re confusing me for someone else

    I voted D like I always do, so have most progressive on here from what I’ve seen them say.

    What me, and them, have been saying is that Biden and Harris had our votes, but every indication show d they wouldn’t get enough to beat trump.

    It’s fine to be upset about that, we are too. Probably more than any moderate, we’re literally losing more than you all, that’s why we care.

    But what’s scary is this has all happened before. Moderates refuse to acknowledge they’re unpopular with Dem voters, and rather than reach out to progressives for help reaching non-votera…

    You all just seemed obsessed with turning more Dem voters away from the party.

    Maybe if you stopped focusing so much on the negatives, and started promoting positive change, people wouldn’t argue with you so much.

    The change we need is better Dem candidates, how the absolute fuck will that happen if we’re not allowed to acknowledge we keep running shitty candidates?

    Do you even remember how a fair and open primary is supposed to work?

    How is one of those ever possible if no one is allowed to criticize the party’s favorite?








  • Are you surprised?

    Ben Gvir is literally a convicted terrorist. Do you have any idea how extreme you have to be for Israel to convict you of being a Zionist terrorist?

    He was so rightwing, the IDF excused him from compulsory military service

    The fact that he’s now in a position of authority is a huge red flag

    Itamar Ben-Gvir was born in Mevaseret Zion. His father was born in Iraqi Kurdistan and worked at a gasoline company and dabbled in writing.[10] His mother was a Kurdish Jewish immigrant who was active in the Irgun as a teenager and was a homemaker. His family was secular, but as a teenager, he adopted religious and radical right-wing views during the First Intifada. He first joined a right-wing youth movement affiliated with Moledet, a party which advocated the expulsion of Arabs out of Israel, and then joined the youth movement of the even more radical Kach and Kahane Chai party, which was designated as a terrorist organization and outlawed by the Israeli government.[12][13] He became youth coordinator of Kach, and claimed that he was detained at the age of 14. When he came of age for conscription into the Israel Defense Forces at 18, he was exempted from service by the IDF due to his extreme-right political background.[14][10]

    Ben-Gvir continued to be associated with the Kahanist movement;[15] Otzma Yehudit is considered Kach’s ideological successor.[16] However, when forming the Otzma Yehudit party, he claimed that it would not be a Kach, Kahane Chai or splinter group.[17] He carried out a series of far-right activities that have resulted in dozens of indictments. In a November 2015 interview, he claimed to have been indicted 53 times.[18] In most cases, the charges were thrown out of court.[10] In 2007, however, he was convicted for incitement to racism and supporting a terrorist organization.[19][20] Ben-Gvir has been convicted of at least eight charges.[9]

    In the 1990s, he was active in protests against the Oslo Accords. In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin’s car, and declared: “We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too.” Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.[10][21]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_Ben-Gvir


  • Why did so many people upvote that?

    The world revolves around the sun homie, not America…

    Hell, the big reason they got arrested, is they kept openly saying to a global audience “we came here because with a little money there’s no consequences”.

    Which pisses off the corrupt justice system and the people who benefit from it.

    They fucked up a nice situation a lot of dangerous people benefit from, but you’re clearly stuck in your own world view if you honestly think:

    They learned from our local high-profile crooks that if you can delay proceeding for a couple years, the process ends.

    Just fucking wild man