Has anybody spotted signs of denouncing Hamas? All I see is “Free Palestine”. No mention of the genocidal act or the group that started this all. Makes it look like all Palestinians are in support of terrorism. I frankly lost all respect for them and their cause. It’s all “me me me” without any acknowledge of them themselves being a very large part of the problem.
Palestinians in Gaza have been mistreated for over a decade, they can only enter Israel during the day and have to come back by nightfall. Israel closed the border between Gaza and Egypt. People have been trapped in Gaza and treated like cattle for so long. They have been denied healthcare and basic needs. And the moment a few palestinians revolt against the oppression (even though killings by hamas are horrible), the world denounces palestine as a whole? Have you read about what Israel has been doing for the past decade or so? I think that in it’s core, it’s a fight for freedom. Hamas’ approach is absolutely terrifying, but palestinians can’t just stand and watch. How can you make sure your opinions reach the government when they don’t want to listen to you? That’s the entire point of religious conflicts, Israeli government hates palestinians for just existing. And you tell me that palestinians are supposed to sympathise with the killings in Israel, when Israel has done (and continues to do) atrocities on their people ten times as worse?
Was it horrible for british colonies to fight against the british empire? What would you think the narrative would be if Britain had a colony right now which was trying to revolt? What about everything that the US has done to destroy economies in the middle east, just to line the pockets of the rich? How is this not obvious?
The original, 1988 version of the charter emphasize four main themes: [18]
Destroying Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy in Palestine is essential;[18]
Unrestrained jihad is necessary to achieve this;[18]
Negotiated resolutions of Jewish and Palestinian claims to the land are unacceptable;[18]
Historical anti-semitic tropes that reinforce the goals.[18]
The Covenant proclaims that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it, and jihad against Jews is required until Judgement Day. Compromise over the land is forbidden. The documents promote holy war as divinely ordained, reject political solutions, and call for instilling these views in children.[18]
Almost all freedom movements have extremists. The existence of extremists doesn’t justify oppressing innocent civilians. Focusing on Hamas is important, sure. But what’s a LOT more important is how Israel is (and has been) treating Palestinians. A complete disregard and lack of accountability for Israel’s actions while simultaneously asking the oppressed to condemn Hamas sounds a bit too insane to me.
There’s a reason why pro-palestine protestors do not talk about Hamas: they don’t support Hamas. But talking about Hamas takes the attention away from the crap that Israel has been putting Gaza through for more than a decade. Sure, both need to be heard. But right now, what’s not being done (and in fact, actively ignored) is talking about Israel’s actions: making it seem like a response to Hamas’ recent attacks even though it’s been happening for so long.
Hamas is not a random group of extremist, Hamas is the government that Gazans voted into power back in 2006.
And as always: If you have a better way to handle this, let us know. Everybody keeps complaining about Israel, ignores all the war crimes Hamas committed and provides no alternatives. Time machines don’t exists, so any “but Israel in the past blabla…” is rather useless.
I mean, it’s a religious conflict. There’s not going to be any satisfactory solution for both parties really. It’s still absolutely horrible that they resort to violence over this, both the israeli government and hamas are to blame for this, and as always, the ones caught in the crossfire are innocent civilians. However, if residents of Gaza were allowed to leave, most would flee anyway, despite it (possibly) being their land. Preventing that is something Israel is certainly to be blamed for. Of course, one can make an argument about terrorists escaping along with them, but yeah.
Also, just because you can’t change history doesn’t mean that you ignore it, but anyway.
Has anybody spotted signs of denouncing Hamas? All I see is “Free Palestine”. No mention of the genocidal act or the group that started this all. Makes it look like all Palestinians are in support of terrorism. I frankly lost all respect for them and their cause. It’s all “me me me” without any acknowledge of them themselves being a very large part of the problem.
https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-using-last-words-to-con-1850925657
Nobody is dying while protesting in LONDON.
Good refutation. It’s also a satrie page and just fits your stance so well that I thought you might enjoy it.
Whoooooosh.
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Pretty sure the Israelites taking over the grounds of Palestine happened before HAMAS ever existed.
Palestinians in Gaza have been mistreated for over a decade, they can only enter Israel during the day and have to come back by nightfall. Israel closed the border between Gaza and Egypt. People have been trapped in Gaza and treated like cattle for so long. They have been denied healthcare and basic needs. And the moment a few palestinians revolt against the oppression (even though killings by hamas are horrible), the world denounces palestine as a whole? Have you read about what Israel has been doing for the past decade or so? I think that in it’s core, it’s a fight for freedom. Hamas’ approach is absolutely terrifying, but palestinians can’t just stand and watch. How can you make sure your opinions reach the government when they don’t want to listen to you? That’s the entire point of religious conflicts, Israeli government hates palestinians for just existing. And you tell me that palestinians are supposed to sympathise with the killings in Israel, when Israel has done (and continues to do) atrocities on their people ten times as worse?
Was it horrible for british colonies to fight against the british empire? What would you think the narrative would be if Britain had a colony right now which was trying to revolt? What about everything that the US has done to destroy economies in the middle east, just to line the pockets of the rich? How is this not obvious?
You must have drunken too much of the Hamas Cool-Aid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter#Analysis
Almost all freedom movements have extremists. The existence of extremists doesn’t justify oppressing innocent civilians. Focusing on Hamas is important, sure. But what’s a LOT more important is how Israel is (and has been) treating Palestinians. A complete disregard and lack of accountability for Israel’s actions while simultaneously asking the oppressed to condemn Hamas sounds a bit too insane to me.
There’s a reason why pro-palestine protestors do not talk about Hamas: they don’t support Hamas. But talking about Hamas takes the attention away from the crap that Israel has been putting Gaza through for more than a decade. Sure, both need to be heard. But right now, what’s not being done (and in fact, actively ignored) is talking about Israel’s actions: making it seem like a response to Hamas’ recent attacks even though it’s been happening for so long.
Hamas is not a random group of extremist, Hamas is the government that Gazans voted into power back in 2006.
And as always: If you have a better way to handle this, let us know. Everybody keeps complaining about Israel, ignores all the war crimes Hamas committed and provides no alternatives. Time machines don’t exists, so any “but Israel in the past blabla…” is rather useless.
I mean, it’s a religious conflict. There’s not going to be any satisfactory solution for both parties really. It’s still absolutely horrible that they resort to violence over this, both the israeli government and hamas are to blame for this, and as always, the ones caught in the crossfire are innocent civilians. However, if residents of Gaza were allowed to leave, most would flee anyway, despite it (possibly) being their land. Preventing that is something Israel is certainly to be blamed for. Of course, one can make an argument about terrorists escaping along with them, but yeah.
Also, just because you can’t change history doesn’t mean that you ignore it, but anyway.
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Hamas is nothing in comparison to Israels crimes against the Palestinians.