Definitely kicked the hornets nest with this one OP lol
There’s entirely too many people who let perfect be the enemy of better in this thread
Was Biden really better? He did all the same shit, he was just quiet about it instead of holding a press conference every time they bombed children.
He did all the same shit
Yeah, 100%! Although, if you don’t mind, could you remind me:
- How many times was Biden mentioned in the Epstein files?
- How many crimes or felonies has Biden been convicted for?
- How many people, including children, reported Biden for raping them?
- How much money has Biden and Biden’s family take under the table?
- Which fundamental rules of democracy has Biden broken?
- How many countries has Biden invaded?
- How many times has Biden rolled out the red carpet for Putin?
- What were the levels of Biden’s tariffs and how much did they destabilise the global economy?
- How many globally strategic trade routes have been blocked due to Biden’s egomania?
- How many US citizens have been killed for no reason at all by Biden’s Sturmabteilung?
Uh… I was offline. What happened?
The Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act to allow racially based gerrymandering if they don’t outright say it’s racially based.
And now liberals are blaming progressives and leftists, as usual.
What, you expect them to do something, or like not vote for the massive increase in “defense” spending?
Didn’t they vote against that? Which doesn’t matter one bit since Republicans have both Congress and Senate, so they can do whatever the fuck they want?
Huh, that’s weird - because when the Democrats had both houses, we were told there’s nothing they can do. THE PARLIMENTARIAN didn’t allow it.
The who?
I’m not from the US so I don’t know the specifics of the process.
You shouldn’t know it.
When Biden and the Dems controlled the government, they ran out of excuses not to raise the minimum wage. So they split the bills that leadership wanted from that.
Then, they had an office nobody had ever heard about before (the parlimentarian) declare that they couldn’t do that in reconciliation. It’s a nonsense office, and when the GOP faced that they fired the Parlimentarian. The Democrats, of course, threw up their hands. The minimum wage was not raised.
Ah, I get it. You seem to be confused about the Democrats.
Why would they increase the minimum wage if that goes against their main corporate sponsors?
Like… People need to learn some nuance. No, the Dems are super fucking far from perfect, they do what corpos tell them to do, and their primary speciality is doing literally nothing… BUT at least they don’t assault the foundations of US democracy, don’t steal anything that’s not nailed down, don’t create diplomatic catastrophes every Monday, and don’t threaten to nuke their allies. They also, more often than not, vote against brain-dead or dangerous ideas of the Republicans.
That being said - change is coming. Voters are showing that they want more left-leaning, pro-active representatives, not dead shrimps like Schumer. Hence why we get people like Mamdani elected.
42 out of 212.
What a lot of liberals don’t get about leftists criticizing the Democrats is that it isn’t “both sides are bad”. We criticize them because they’re lauded as saviors of the common people due to their occasional, surface level platitudes and vague gestures toward “progress”. Meanwhile, 20% of the Democrats in the house just fucking pimped us out to the surveillance state (for like the 500th time) and nobodys taking about it. The only thing you had to say about it was “well it wasnt ALL of them”
Y’all get defensive because deep down you know the Democrats are never going to save us or even stem the tide, but they’re the systems “solution” to the fascist problem so bygolly were just gonna keep “voting blue no matter who” until the country is “”““fixed””“” again. It’s a narrow, misinformed, and foolish perspective that deprioritizes everything but elections and tribalism.
I can’t speak for every leftist, but the ones I know and the spaces I run in outside of this godforsaken site don’t want to talk about the Democrats, they don’t want to talk electoral politics, they don’t want to both sides every little thing. But most liberals only seem to be capable of seeing politics through the party system, so we’re left having the conversation on your terms, which inevitably turns to criticism of the Democrats and y’all being a bunch of fucking crybullies about the slightest, most surface level critique of the party. Electoralism is a distraction, and we’re all falling for it.
I’m not saying don’t vote. I’m saying your mind is made up already, you know how you’re gonna vote, you know that your options are terrible, you know why you won’t be voting for the other side, you know what the fascists are up to. Why are we wasting so much energy chirping at each other when we could be active in the streets, supporting our communities, and building alternative systems that sidestep the two party system entirely? Why aren’t we talking about those things? Why aren’t we doing them? Plenty of people already are, we’re just
waiting forpleading with the libs to get the fucking hint and actually do something for onceWe criticize them because they’re lauded as saviors of the common people due to their occasional, surface level platitudes and vague gestures toward “progress”
Jesus, by who?? All I see is (here and in other social media) “at least they won’t put us in gulags and threaten the use of nuclear weapon against our own allies”.
Y’all get defensive because deep down you know the Democrats are never going to save us or even stem the tide, but they’re the systems “solution” to the fascist problem so bygolly were just gonna keep “voting blue no matter who”
What’s the alternative?
