The mercenary Wagner group has sensationally claimed Russia has fired a missile at its camps, just after its founder bashed Putin’s war on Ukraine.

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    Incorrect title, he has declared they’re marching (or planning to) march against Shoigu and oust him from the MoD.

    In his statement he specifically states that he thinks the MoD has also misled the President. So his argument is that he is he’s trying to help Russia and Putin by getting rid of Shoigu.

    FSB has declared a criminal investigation on charges of inciting a coup, and Rosguardia has been put on high alert. Medvedev has stated “all necessary precaution measures have started”.

    Will be interesting to see what happens next.

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    I have a hard time believing this, but if Wagner/Prigozhin goes rouge, at the moment when Ukraine have started their counteroffensive, that could have massive consequences for Russia. I wonder whether Ukraine would allow them to “go free” if they decide to switch sides en masse?

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        I meant what I said! If Prigozhin goes rouge his new appearance could woo the people and benefit him massively in the Russian presidential election, potentially causing a major upset and leading to the end of Putins rain.

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              Well, in that case I don’t understand what you said. I mean, red is a nice color to wear if you dare to wear it, but I don’t know how it could help Prigozhin in any way.

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                red is a nice color to wear if you dare to wear it

                Exactly!

                his new appearance could woo the people and benefit him massively in the Russian presidential election, potentially causing a major upset and leading to the end of Putins rain.

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      Rosguardia has hundreds of thousands of internal soldiers. Assuming their allegiance is to the MoD (and at this point there is no way of knowing), I don’t see how Prigozhin could successfully stage the ousting.

      If he was really trying to help the Ukrainians the most effective decision would probably be to attack the rear of the Russian lines to allow Ukrainian forces to come through. Wagner units have been off the front for about a month so I don’t think it really has any effect on Ukraines ability to break through the lines without the above scenario happening, but nothing Prigozhin has said leads me to think he’d help Ukraine, as he also stated he plans to return to the Frontlines to help defend the motherland against the west after ousting Shoigu.

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        I definitely think Prigozhins “easiest” way to power would be to help the Ukrainians break through and encircle a large portion of the Russian army.

        Rosguardia has hundreds of thousands of internal soldiers.

        I may be very wrong, but I think that such a large proportion of the Russian armed forces and material are in Ukraine now, that if they were to be encircled and lose decisively (not that I think this is immediately likely) the Rosguardia would have a hard time. It doesn’t help to have hundreds of thousands of soldiers if you don’t have any heavy equipment, communication systems or command structure. Additionally, Prigozhin appears to be in good favour among quite a few Russians, so I wouldn’t bet against some of them joining him if he were to try something.

        But given what you’re saying, the above seems like a pipe dream but-I-want-to-dream-that-this-can-end-suddenly-and-quickly.

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    100% political theatre. Prigozhin is a media whore and clown.

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    Lots of news reports about this. I mean, there would be, given it plays to the west’s wish for problems within Russia.

    Not sure if it’s posturing on Prigozhin’s part or an actual revolt against the Russian military. Time will tell.