Fog of war ? Did you see these ?
The total combat losses of the enemy (russia) from (…)
2022 feb 24 to 2025 Mar. 27
https://lemmy.world/post/27444482
personnel 908890 tanks 10438
troop carrying AFV 21701
artillery systems 25265
MLRS 1343
anti aircraft systems 1118
aircrafts 370
helicopters 335
UAV 30926
cruise missiles 3121
boats 28
submarine 1
vehicles & fuel tanks 42070
special equipment 3787
if your sources diverge, please choose only one of these numbers, the best established one, (# of lost tanks ?) with a different source (only one souce) for comparison.
Ukrainian MOD is hardly reliable. Russia doesn’t even have 10K tanks.
MediaZona and Oryx meanwhile require actual evidence for their numbers.
Russian material losses are very well documented so I don’t see them being significantly higher. Oryx states that Russia has lost around 3K tanks. This is far more realistic. These are mostly old tanks which makes sense as the majority of forces in the SMO are irregulars. Less than 800 of those losses are T-72B3s or T-72BAs.
MediaZona’s estimate for Russian losses is 150K including unconfirmed losses using excess male deaths which about 50% higher than the 100K deaths they have confirmed. But these are mostly irregulars (again, losses for professionals are only 16K). Deaths for individual soldiers are also harder to confirm than material losses.
Thanks for your reply - - i wish for Europe to rearm and for the coalition to push russia back. For this to happen, there has to be hope. While it is possible your sources could be better verified, there is no absolute proof of real numbers during war. Let’s keep hope and try to be true.
These are the sources you gave in this thread … i can’t find anything wrong about those now … but since you’ve been banned from this community, maybe someone else will discuss it eventually.
Fog of war ? Did you see these ? The total combat losses of the enemy (russia) from (…)
2022 feb 24 to 2025 Mar. 27 https://lemmy.world/post/27444482
personnel 908890
tanks 10438
troop carrying AFV 21701
artillery systems 25265
MLRS 1343
anti aircraft systems 1118
aircrafts 370
helicopters 335
UAV 30926
cruise missiles 3121
boats 28
submarine 1
vehicles & fuel tanks 42070
special equipment 3787
if your sources diverge, please choose only one of these numbers, the best established one, (# of lost tanks ?) with a different source (only one souce) for comparison.
Ukrainian MOD is hardly reliable. Russia doesn’t even have 10K tanks.
MediaZona and Oryx meanwhile require actual evidence for their numbers.
Russian material losses are very well documented so I don’t see them being significantly higher. Oryx states that Russia has lost around 3K tanks. This is far more realistic. These are mostly old tanks which makes sense as the majority of forces in the SMO are irregulars. Less than 800 of those losses are T-72B3s or T-72BAs.
MediaZona’s estimate for Russian losses is 150K including unconfirmed losses using excess male deaths which about 50% higher than the 100K deaths they have confirmed. But these are mostly irregulars (again, losses for professionals are only 16K). Deaths for individual soldiers are also harder to confirm than material losses.
Thanks for your reply - - i wish for Europe to rearm and for the coalition to push russia back. For this to happen, there has to be hope. While it is possible your sources could be better verified, there is no absolute proof of real numbers during war. Let’s keep hope and try to be true.
This is true although as far as this war is concerned, I believe that some numbers are more realistic than others.
These are the sources you gave in this thread … i can’t find anything wrong about those now … but since you’ve been banned from this community, maybe someone else will discuss it eventually.