• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      That’s not how it works. I know multiple Muslim women who wear headscarves and abayas without anyone pressuring them to do so. Blanket banning that is taking away their rights; where does it end? Do we ban all marriages because some women are pressured into one?

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        They don’t can women from wearing them - just children that usually wear whatever their parents want them to wear without having a choice.

        It’s about making a conscious decision while also removing as much religion from schools as possible

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          It doesn’t end in schools, the far right is also banning them from government property and fining women who cover their face in public.

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      It’s just for schoolgirls and college students. It’s not a nationwide ban. This move is just a pr move to gain far right votes, nothing more.

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        It’s also showing those children that it’s not bad if you’re not wearing that kind of clothing.

        If they want to use them as a cultural choice when they are adults that’s fine - the problem is if they never new anything else as the default.

        Putting a bird that knew freedom back in a cage is harder than keeping one caged all their life. It just makes it easier for those children to break out of their patriarchal structures

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          What a condescending message. It’s also sending a message that the government views your religion as inferior. It’s just an extension of the same colonialism that France showed to immigrants for centuries. Catholic nuns aren’t fined and harassed the way Muslim women are. These laws don’t exist in a vacuum, which is why it’s creating a backlash among minority groups.

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            The same rules are in place for the kippah or wearing crosses afaik - so your point is invalid

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              The rules are NOT enforced equally. Anyone in French schools will tell you this.

              It’s a law intended to be enforced mainly against one group, which is why it’s so controversial within France. (This is not new, it’s been a complaint ever since the law was voted on in 2004, when the original regulation explicitly said small crosses could be exempt but no exception made for other religions.) It’s only gotten worse since French police fined people for not wearing masks during Covid and then fined Muslim women for covering their faces with masks.)

              It’s like having a law against sleeping on park benches or under bridges and pretending that the law isn’t meant to discriminate against the poor.

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            Not even religion, culture. My grandma used to wear a headscarf pretty much everywhere. She was Italian and not Muslim.

            Plus, if they are being forced, then either they’re going to get beaten or murdered for taking it off, or they won’t go to school to avoid being beaten or murdered. So it doesn’t help those women either. It’s purely a far right PR stunt to appeal to people who hate Muslims.