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LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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Azerbaijan Airlines crash sparks speculation plane ‘accidentally shot down by Russia’

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Azerbaijan Airlines crash sparks speculation plane ‘accidentally shot down by Russia’

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Azerbaijan Airlines plane ‘likely shot down by Russian air defences’
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An Azerbaijan Airlines plane that crashed on Christmas Day was “likely shot down by a Russian military air defence system,” a UK-based aviation security firm has said.

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  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Wouldn’t be the first of such “accidents.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

    also

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752

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      Or the most famous example of Russian trigger-happiness, Korean Airlines 007.

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    That makes more sense than bird strike which led to control surface failure.

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      Birds? Drones? Same thing.

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      What I read (and who knows whether it’ll turn out to be true) was that the plane was off it’s planned course, likely due to a birdstrike, which lead to them entering an area that was actively expecting drone attacks, which likely lead to the Russians shooting it down.

      But I guess we’ll see when the report comes out.

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        The location of active drone attacks is Grozny which was the intended destination. Maybe they approached the airport in an unexpected direction. But the shrapnel marks in the interior before the crash indicate an attack.

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    I wonder what Azerbaijan’s reaction will be to this.

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      Sternly worded letter? Ineffective bleating? Or maybe they’ll escalate to expelling a diplomat or two.

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        Well they are firmly within Russia’s sphere of influence, so any action from them will be interesting.

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          Azerbaijan is firmly in Turkey’s sphere of influence, the same people who just game Russia the boot from Syria. Turkey will find an undermine Russia in return for their idiotic mistake. Russia will pay.

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            You’re absolutely right. I can’t believe I mixed that up.

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    The incident, which killed at least 38 people and injured a further 29

    How did 29 people survive this? The fuselage is in multiple pieces!

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      A plane (or part of a plane) can have the required aerodynamics for a “flat stall” (flat spin) or similar condition of falling. Depending on the plane (or part of it), and depending on whether a fire follows the fall - with incredible luck it’s possible to come down at parachute-like speed and get away with injuries only.

      However, if the plane was still controllable, then during an unpowered landing, pilots are supposed to trade speed for lift on the last moment. I guess they succeeded partly - they died, but folks in the tailward part stayed alive.

      Being able to question survivors will help determine what happened, but the holes in surfaces look like air defense shrapnel to me. :(

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      The tail section separated on impact. There’s a couple videos, one from the outside showing people being rescued from the tail, and one from the inside from one of the survivors.

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        For a moment I thought you said that they rescued someone from the inside of one of the other survivors

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      Incredible luck

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        And pilot’s skill

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      Russian quality rocket… 50/50 kill rate.

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    I guess that’s why Western airlines stopped flying over Russia.

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      Russia also banned them

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    “Accidentally”

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      Most likely they shot a missile deliberately, but misidentified the plane as a drone.

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    I’m guessing they don’t even get a “My bad” out of it.

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    Is joke, bro!! -Russian scumbags.

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      *Is only joke, comrade.

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