There are a lot of tanky posts coming from lemmy.ml. Their whole purpose seems to be to troll and spread their bullshit far and wide. They are nearly as bad as the alt-right. They argue in bad faith and celebrate authoritarian oppression. The beehaw mods might want to consider defederating.
I’ve had moments where I considered it too, because of all the tankies and propaganda, but I’m still here because I really want to see it succeed.
Unfortunately, I won’t even admit to anyone that I use it, let alone recommend it. I think from a rational outside perspective, the unfiltered Fediverse is an extremist echochamber. Some of the things that get said and heavily upvoted are wild.
I’ve had death threats multiple times from Hexbear users, and I’ve abandoned an account because Lemmy.ml users followed me around and downvoted everything I posted (which was mostly memes at the time).
We can’t expect people to deal with all of that when there’s already a relatively steep learning curve when joining. There’s no corporation running the show to fight propaganda, we have to deal with it, or the Fediverse is at risk of going the way of Voat.
Yep, I’ve had similar experiences. For as much as we believe Reddit was/is toxic, the toxicity here can be a bit on the heavy side. Like you. I’m still hanging around because I really want the fediverse to succeed and I’d like for Lemmy to be a big part of it.
I mean, sounds like you just need to go to an instance that defederates from those places. Lemm.ee doesn’t defederate a lot but it sounds like you’d prefer an instance that does.
That does nothing to solve the problem. I want to see the Fediverse succeed.
In order for the Fediverse to succeed, we need well-moderated instances that aren’t afraid of defederating from the badly moderated instances. As you say, you’ve had death threats from Hexbear users for instance. If the Fediverse is to succeed, we can’t have all users go through that, so we need a strong core of instances that defederates from such instances.
That means that we need users to choose to go to the well-moderated instances and that hopefully will not be a difficult choice.
So what I’m saying is that you going to a better moderated instance is not incompatible with the success of the Fediverse - in fact it is basically required for its success.
I think this is a very good and important point.
Fair enough, I see your point. Thanks for explaining.