It is by far the highest population state in India. More people = more scandals. But even when you try to account for that, there’s still an aweful lot of scandals coming out of Uttar Pradesh.
And many of those scandals involve local police or rich locals who believe that laws are for other people, but getting international attention does land them into trouble. So what we’re seeing is probably just the tip of the iceberg, but that’s true in other places as well.
I was talking about stories involving rape that made it into international media and that I read about. Uttar Pradesh features frequently in those.
Anecdotal stories and statistics are 2 different things, but it’s possible to infer some things from them. One important thing about statistics is that you should never accept them at face value (the same with anecdotal stories obviously), they are collected by humans after all.
That page has statistics about “registered” rape cases. In the registered rape cases Uttar Pradesh ranks fairly low, which does not correlate with the amount of scandals that make it into international media. And since loads of those scandals seem to involve police, it’s not a stretch to conclude that the number of registered cases is a vast underestimation of the real amount.
Reasons why it’s likely lower: police refuse to register cases against specific persons or cases from specific people (Dalits), but far more will not be registered simply because the victims don’t even try. There’s the shame of it being known that you were raped, but there’s also justified fear of retaliations afterwards, if the police wasn’t directly involved in the rape in the first place.
The mismatch between the high amount of anecdotal stories and the low statistics also tells us that there’s no improvement to be expected in the next few years. The first step to recovery, is accepting that you have a problem, and Uttar Pradesh is clearly not there yet.
Your wiki page is about crime, but there’s also one about rape:
There was a rape statistics section in my link. I should’ve used an anchor tag so you could see it.
Reasons why it’s likely lower: police refuse to register cases against specific persons or cases from specific people (Dalits), but far more will not be registered simply because the victims don’t even try.
This doesn’t explain why the number would be lower in Uttar Pradesh than the rest of India. In the absence of evidence there’s no reason to believe that police corruption shouldn’t happen in rural areas too.
I had seen that and I did not say that it didn’t, but the page that was specifically about indian rape statistics instead of statistics on all crimes, contained additional information pertaining those rape statistics, including a section specifically about how wrong the Uttar Pradesh rape statistics are. All statistics are wrong, but some are simply more wrong than others.
It is by far the highest population state in India. More people = more scandals. But even when you try to account for that, there’s still an aweful lot of scandals coming out of Uttar Pradesh.
And many of those scandals involve local police or rich locals who believe that laws are for other people, but getting international attention does land them into trouble. So what we’re seeing is probably just the tip of the iceberg, but that’s true in other places as well.
This doesn’t appear to be true. When you account for population Uttar Pradesh has fewer rapes (and crimes in general) than India as a whole.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_territories_of_India_by_crime_rate
I was talking about stories involving rape that made it into international media and that I read about. Uttar Pradesh features frequently in those.
Anecdotal stories and statistics are 2 different things, but it’s possible to infer some things from them. One important thing about statistics is that you should never accept them at face value (the same with anecdotal stories obviously), they are collected by humans after all.
Your wiki page is about crime, but there’s also one about rape: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_India
That page has statistics about “registered” rape cases. In the registered rape cases Uttar Pradesh ranks fairly low, which does not correlate with the amount of scandals that make it into international media. And since loads of those scandals seem to involve police, it’s not a stretch to conclude that the number of registered cases is a vast underestimation of the real amount.
Reasons why it’s likely lower: police refuse to register cases against specific persons or cases from specific people (Dalits), but far more will not be registered simply because the victims don’t even try. There’s the shame of it being known that you were raped, but there’s also justified fear of retaliations afterwards, if the police wasn’t directly involved in the rape in the first place.
The mismatch between the high amount of anecdotal stories and the low statistics also tells us that there’s no improvement to be expected in the next few years. The first step to recovery, is accepting that you have a problem, and Uttar Pradesh is clearly not there yet.
There was a rape statistics section in my link. I should’ve used an anchor tag so you could see it.
This doesn’t explain why the number would be lower in Uttar Pradesh than the rest of India. In the absence of evidence there’s no reason to believe that police corruption shouldn’t happen in rural areas too.
I had seen that and I did not say that it didn’t, but the page that was specifically about indian rape statistics instead of statistics on all crimes, contained additional information pertaining those rape statistics, including a section specifically about how wrong the Uttar Pradesh rape statistics are. All statistics are wrong, but some are simply more wrong than others.