Kinda like now, only now there’s a lot more dead bodies

  • NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    I remember when the world thought George Dubya Bush was the dumbest president the US would ever have. This is worse in basically every possible measure.

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      Well, he caused about a million deaths and countless refugees from the Middle East. The chaos just didn’t reach the US in the same way as the one caused by Pedolf Diddler.

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        Even more than that, in a lot of ways this is the chaos he unleashed coming back on us. ICE was created by his administration as part of the overreaction to 9/11, and their whole strategy of “say person doesn’t have legal status, detain them in the cheapest and most dangerous facility possible, and charge taxpayers a king’s ransom to do it” was first dreamed up by the fucking ghouls in his DOJ, they just called them “enemy combatants” instead of “illegal aliens.”

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          Yes, it’s definitely a continuum and important to keep in mind. Thinking ahead, we don’t yet know what kind of ripple effects we see from the current administrator in 15-20 years…

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        The chaos just didn’t reach the US

        The consequences and refugees of the Bush imperialist wars did reach Europe though. It helped right wing ideology to rise.

        In Trump’s first term, the one good thing was that he didn’t start a new war and create more refugees and devastation. Of course now he and his masters are purposefully wrecking the global economy which is worse.

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          Yep, the reason I don’t want to mention Europe here is because Bush was and still is pretty widely despised in Europe as it is. I feel like the US still looks back at him with some nostalgia (remember how funny he was in that golf video?), but IMO it’s just because they didn’t really face any direct repercussions. Even if they paid trillions for his stupid wars, the effect was more indirect.

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            didn’t really face any direct repercussions.

            Other than, like, the PATRIOT act and the beginning of the end for privacy and civil rights in the name of national security. Or a ton of education programs gutted to support No Child Left Behind. The effects might not be obvious but they are directly caused by his administration.

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              I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like we’re talking about different things. My focus is on what the general population sees and feels, yours is in on the legislative impact of the administration. The effects of those laws are of course felt now, but not many can draw the line back to the Bush administration when making the next voting decision. Contrast this to the Iran war, where the gas prices rose within weeks or days.