I’ve taken my largest dose of Adderall yet, 15 mg. I know it’s not a lot, but I’m very sensitive to stimulants in general (almost zero caffeine intake). I generally take 5mg at around 9 am and leave it at that. Sometimes I’ll take another 5 with lunch. Today I felt extra fuzzy, so I took 10 at lunch instead.

I feel like I’m still scatterbrained, but faster. Still context switching like crazy. Can’t follow through things to completion. What gives?

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    I’ll echo what many people have said here - for me it comes down to environment. My brain still craves the novelty of “something else that’s more fun”.

    When I’m on meds, I have to create an environment that is also curated. I tried using them in the office and it’s a real problem. In the context of the office there are so many additional things that it’s difficult to focus and I end up going into deeper rabbit holes than off meds.

    Adderall helps me stay in a task, but doesn’t do much to help get me into the right task.

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    It’s possible that maybe Adderall just isn’t for you. I was first tried on instant release methylphenidate (basically ritalin, but unbranded), and I think it improved my focus. However, it also gave me brain fog that negated any benefits.

    They tried me on the extended release methylphenidate after that, which had similar effects. Then they tried me on dexamphetamine (basically Adderall, but slightly different), and it worked really well for me. So maybe you might need to try other medications (such as methylphenidate, or a time release version of Adderall, such as lisdexamphetamine (branded = Elvanse, I believe), or even one of the non-stimulant ADHD meds, like atomoxetine or guanfacine.

    However, I would also note that whilst for me, getting onto medication that worked for my ADHD was like a miracle, it wasn’t something that solved stuff on its own. I remember that when I was fairly newly on dexamphetamine, I spent an entire day organising my Spotify library. I suddenly had focus, but I needed to learn new skills and strategies to be able to manage that. I also find that I am still pretty scattered brained, and bouncing between topics at a mile a minute. However, I do find it easier to follow conversational or thought threads, to help keep me on track.

    It’s super interesting to me, because there have been times where I have been unable to access my medication where I was even less capable of functioning than before I had medication. I felt bad about this at first, but a friend explained that it’s no wonder I was doing worse than before I had ever had medication for ADHD, because back then, I had loads of coping strategies to mitigate my unmedicated ADHD. They weren’t bad strategies, but they were built for a particular context, and thus when I started on medication, I gradually learned new coping strategies that fit with the version of me that was medicated, discarding the old strategies.

    In short, maybe Adderall isn’t the ideal med for you if you feel like you’re still scatterbrained, but faster. However equally, being medicated doesn’t stop you from being ADHD — you’ll probably always have a higher than average level of scatteryness and context switching. Also, it’s likely you will need to build new coping strategies for the version of you that’s medicated, and that will take time.


    Edit: I wanted to give an example of one of my coping strategies. So I have found that even when I am decently focussed and medicated, I struggle to focus on one task for a long time (unless it’s a task that I am enthusiastic enough about that I get pulled into ADHD hyperfocus, a fun but dangerous path that I have learned is healthy, in moderation). So rather than fighting my instinct to constantly be switching contexts, when I have lots of Tasks to do, I will let myself cycle between them — I half-jokingly call this “ADHD circuit training”.

    What this looks like in practice is that I might spend a chunk of time trying to write an essay for university. Then once I find myself encountering resistance to this task, rather than pushing onwards, I switch to a new task, such as tidying up my space. Then before I become fatigued with that task, I might spend a little bit of time doing some fun reading. Then maybe I might organise some of my files (a task that feels productive, but isn’t particularly). Then I will go back onto my essay task.

    I do still need to hold myself accountable to doing some of the more boring tasks (like, I don’t just give up if I am not immediately making progress on the essay), and I find it works best if, at the beginning of the working day, I decide what tasks I will likely cycle between (so I don’t get too off track from my goals). I also need to set myself some time boundaries — I tend to find that 90 minutes working on a task is enough time to build momentum without being too long. I might take small breaks within this 90 mins, but in general, it’s a good guideline. It’s mostly useful because it means I can set a timer, and it means I don’t lose track of time too much.

    For the tasks that I really enjoy (like the fun reading, or mundane organisation tasks that feel productive), the time boundary helps ensure I don’t get drawn into spending too long on one task. I’m fairly adaptive with it though, but that’s because I’ve gotten quite good at recognising when I should push myself and when I need to be kind.

    However, I must emphasise that what works for me may not work for you. Someone else on this thread suggested you try various time management and planning strategies that you may have tried in the past but found unhelpful, and you should also not beat yourself up if some of those don’t work for you either. You’ve got to find out what works for you, and develop your own understanding of what battles are worth fighting and when it’s better to just lean into your natural way of working.

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      They weren’t bad strategies, but they were built for a particular context, and thus when I started on medication, I gradually learned new coping strategies that fit with the version of me that was medicated, discarding the old strategies.

      This makes so much sense! Thank you!

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    While I’m not on Adderall, I am on a stimulant.

    The fuzzy, buzzy sensation is a sign you’re in overload. At least for me, the drugs are most effective when I can’t notice them, in the moment. When I look back on a day, however, I can easily see the effects.

    Also, my partner can tell if I’ve missed my meds or not, before I can.

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      The fuzzy feeling I mentioned wasn’t a buzz, but brain fog and lack of focus. I know what you’re talking about, I didn’t get that that day.

      I wish I could rely on my partner for that, she would definitely notice. But alas, I work far from home.

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    Each stimulant med impacts people differently. Tell your prescribing doctor about your experiences and ask if you can try a different med, if you’re interested.

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    The only thing I notice when I’m on Adderall (also 15 mg) is that my brain is quiet. All the thoughts are still flying around, but they’re much more muted. I’m able to actually focus on what I’m doing. It’s a completely passive feeling for me.

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    Welcome to the well medicated club. I’m on my first dose of lisdexamfetamine. Drinking coffee and waiting for someone to happen.

    Edit ca. 1 hour later: apparently taking amphetamines is a great sleeping pill. My body decided to shut down.

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    Might not be the right one for you. For me most stimulants don’t make things feel “faster” until the dose gets much higher. Also, I usually need a kickstart of caffeine (not too much though or I can get slightly jittery, usually one large, strong cup of coffee or two or so cups of strong black tea) in addition to my 25mg extended release Adderall to clear the initial fog. I then take another 5-10mg of immediate release Adderall in the late afternoon if I need to function in the evening/night.

    For me the Adderall at those doses never really makes me feel “fast” or jittery. I have had some of that when I accidentally took 2 of the 25s, but even then it was minimal. It does keep me from sleeping, though, if I take too much, too late, but I almost always have trouble sleeping anyway unless I’m totally exhausted. Also, if I only use caffeine and no Adderall it takes a lot of coffee to get me hyper.

    But I have a friend with ADHD who needs caffeine in order to sleep in addition to Adderall during the day and another who can’t tolerate Adderall at all and uses a different stimulant (but I can’t remeber what). Everyone is different. Try some different meds or combos, with your doctor’s supervision of course. Just don’t overdo it. Listen to your body and dont base your needs solely on anyone else’s. And it’s a good idea to regularly check blood pressure since even if a stimulant isn’t making your brain hyperactive, it can make other parts react poorly. Home Blood pressure machines are usually cheap and sometimes covered by health plans or allowable under healthcare accounts like FSAs and HSAs and, IMHO, a cheap preventative measure to avoid potential issues. Adderall doesn’t affect my blood pressure much, but it does for some and even with that history, I still check regularly.

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      I’ve been in close contact with my doctor. She prescribed 10 mg with the possibility of a second 10mg dose before 2 pm as needed. It’s still the first month, so I’m taking it slow. The pills are not extended release, and come with scores to break them in half, so that’s what I’ve been doing.

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        I can’t officially recommend doing anything, since it would be medical advice, this is just my personal anecdotes.

        tap for not medical advice

        Even if it’s not enteric coated, sometimes pills absorb differently if they have been broken, at least in my experience.

        Also for me, any caffeine at all had a multiplicative effect. So even a small cup of coffee or tea or fizzy drink would fuck me up if I was taking stimulants, and it would ruin my whole day. It was one or the other for me.

        Finally, I noticed that I was only taking my pills on “work days”, so subconsciously I was associating the pill with stress and exhaustion and multitasking, which kind of biased my experience. I “practiced” being on the pill by taking it on a low pressure day, like going shopping or playing a video game, and just noticing how it affected me.

        Hope this helps!

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          Thank you for the not medical advice.

          I have not consumed caffeine in the same day as my meds. I barely ever do, even before starting the treatment. I even limit my chocolate intake.

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    I’ve found that if I don’t make an effort to focus, I won’t - drugs or not. I’ll just go down a random rabbit hole if I’m not careful. “What do I want to work on for the next hour”

    those ridiculous coping mechanisms people offer for time management - give them a shot again. They might actually work with the drugs. That’s been my experience at least.

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      Amphetamines work IMMEDIATELY, always. Hooo boy do they ever WORK.

      Your SSRIs, SNRIs, most antidepressants, antipsychotics, methylphenidate even… those can take some time. A week, a few weeks maybe.

      Amphetamines hit yo shit whether or not you’ve got ADHD—they’ll just do different things. But adderall for sure will be immediately noticeable. If it’s not, it’s not the right medication to be on. The only thing that hits more quickly when taken orally are benzos/barbituates.

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      That’s… contrary to what my doctor said. 20 to 40 minutes to start being effective, and no day after day cumulative effect, she said. She even recommended not taking those on weekends and holidays to avoid building a resistance.

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        Some ADHD medications (like atomoxetine) need to be taken every day, in order for them to be effective, and they take a while to be effective (much like antidepressants). And you’re right that Adderall isn’t like that, and is likely to start being effective straight away.

        However, there is still an acclimatization period of sorts. For me, this was discernible in the fact that initially, I had a few minor side effects, but after a while of taking my medication every day, they disappeared. So like, on the biochemical level, there is some impact of taking it regularly. But there’s also the more human side of adjusting to stuff — as I outlined in another comment I left on this thread, once I found a medication that worked for me, I needed to develop new strategies to actually manage my focus and routine and stuff (the meds helped, but they weren’t a silver bullet is what I’m saying).

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        So there’s two lines of thought here;

        1 is that the first time you take it, the meds have the best effect and you finally have a functional day, but better, it almost feels like Felix felicis from Harry Potter. Some view it as what should be striven for, which unfortunately can end up with people chasing that first time feeling again, leading to increasing the dose more and more despite side effects.

        2 is that after taking the meds for a few months, you’ve gained a tolerance, its less euphoric but actually more functional because you aren’t chasing the euphoria (or the dopamine from starting a different task).

        Personally I find IR meds to up and down for my day to day, XR is a lot more comfortable long term

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    Sensitivity to caffeine may not correlate to other stimulants. They are totally different metabolic pathways.

    Also that dose is very small. Your titration phase will help determine what is appropriate.

    Mostly your fuzzy, felt like taking more, is probably a bad idea. A steady dose taken at the same time daily will be more helpful in determining the correct dosage. You shouldn’t be playing with it like a toy.

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        Sorry, wasn’t meant as judgemental. Just honest advice. Everyone has good days and bad, and varying sensitivity to various substances, like you said. Titration needs to evaluate the average response over a sufficient period of time to know what is right.

        It sounds like self-medicating, going up or down based on the day. Talk to your physician about this. My understanding is it hurts the in-vivo experiment that is titration.

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            Unconventional, but not unheard of. Take detailed notes in a journal and report back the effects.

            Everybody’s brain is different, you may find this med unfit for your condition and supplement with another or switch entirely. You have to be patient.

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              Yeah, I second the advice of keeping a journal. It doesn’t have to be something that you continue indefinitely, but it can be invaluable for this initial period, especially if you end up trying out different meds.

              The journal doesn’t need to be super detailed, and you don’t need to be perfect in recording stuff everyday (that would be ideal, but we don’t want to let perfect be the enemy of good), but some rough notes are good. Where relevant, include info about if there’s anything that might be contributing to your mental state (e.g. if you got very little sleep the night before, or if you had lots of caffeine).

              Also, try not to forget to eat. Adderall doesn’t need to be taken with food, but I found it useful to ensure I did, so that I wouldn’t forget to eat, as it’s an appetite suppressant. Through keeping a journal, I found that my foggy days were more likely to be the ones in which I forgot to eat

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                Thanks to my hunger being one of the triggers for migraines, I rarely go over 3h awake without food. I do usually take it with food, to both shield the digestive tract and also slow down the absorption of the drug.

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    Sometimes a slightly different formulation can make a difference, but some people also just metabolize the stimulants really quickly. Generally the thing that I notice on my Vyvanse is that I can pull my mind off focusing on things in order to react to things better in the moment. But that’s just how my brain reacts, still might be worth seeing if yours does the same though. Depending on your body composition, you may need an even larger dose? It’s also a possibility that you have other things contributing to your specific scatterbrained effect. I am also on Lexapro which has a good anti-anxiety effect and I’ve never been on my Vyvanse without it so that maybe helping me with mine?

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    Sometimes other things are going on that may be causing difficulty with concentration or thinking clearly. So leave open the possibility that something is going on that isn’t addressed by stimulants if you try different ones or change doses and continue to not find it helping.