Hamas has proposed a ceasefire plan that would quiet the guns in Gaza for four-and-a-half months, during which all hostages would go free, Israel would withdraw its troops from the Gaza Strip and an agreement would be reached on an end to the war.

There was no immediate public response from Israel, which has said it will not pull its troops out of Gaza until Hamas is wiped out.

The Hamas counterproposal envisages three phases of a truce, lasting 45 days each. Militants would exchange remaining Israeli hostages captured on Oct. 7 for Palestinian prisoners. The reconstruction of Gaza would begin, Israeli forces would withdraw completely, and bodies and remains would be exchanged.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived overnight in Israel after meeting the leaders of mediators Qatar and Egypt.

A source close to the negotiations said the Hamas counterproposal did not require a guarantee of a permanent ceasefire at the outset, but an end to the war would have to be agreed during the truce before the final hostages were freed.

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    9 months ago

    I don’t think people understand what it’s like from an Israeli perspective. They place all the blame on Israel. Not saying Israel is innocent, they aren’t, but between the two sides, Israel is the reactionary party.

    I have less concerns we could turn Israel pacifist.

    Hamas will never be peaceful. It’s up to Gaza’s people to change that and reject the violent poking of Israel.

    I mean… what kicked this off this time? Hamas committing horrific acts.

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      9 months ago

      I’m pretty sure Israel doing something to the Al Aqsa mosque kicked it up this time.

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        Yes, I’m sure that justifies killing and kidnapping over 1,000 people.

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          Nothing justifies it, but if you want to know why it happened you’re going to have to look before October 7th. Decades and decades before it even. And you’ll have to be honest about all the things Israel has done, all the people they’ve killed (way more than 1,000 btw), and all the land they’ve taken. And that they continued to do so recently, even before October 7th.

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            So then you go back to the three separate wars the Arab states started all the way back at the beginning.

            Hamas will never change. Hamas is a terrorist organization. As long as Gaza lets them lead, this cycle will never be broken.

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              That war was started because Britain betrayed the promise to the Palestinians and gave their land that they already lived on to another state without any of their input.

              Gaza doesn’t let them do anything. Hamas won an election once and there hasn’t been another one since. And the same thing can be said about Israel. They actually have elections and they choose to elect people that prolong the cycle of violence through constant land grabs, apartheid policies, and occupation.

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      9 months ago

      What do you mean this time? It’s not like Israel stopped killing people.

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        This time meaning the widespread military action.

        Stop blaming Israel only. Blame them both.

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          I’m sorry is abducting thousands of people from a foreign country and holding them without trial; bombing that country repeatedly; and holding it under blockade not widespread military action? Why does Israel constantly get a pass but the second Palestinians do something it’s a cause for a “new” war?

          The old war never ended. Israel has never stopped stealing land with the backing of the IDF.

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              And I’ll admit that Hamas has done some fucked up stuff, but right now Israel is doing ten times worse.