For those unaware, Mark Hamill played Luke in Star Wars.

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    There’s no higher honour than being hated by the American government. Unending respect to all the heroes.

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    Reminds me of Seth McFarlane’s response to the Parents Television Council trying to get Family Guy cancelled: “That’s like getting hate mail from Hitler.”

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    That’s the Star Wars guy? I always knew him as ‘CockKnocker’ from “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back”.

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    Being hated by NAZIs is like … 35% of my day!

    That is the only joy with being around NAZIs: You get to make NAZIs miserable, pissy, and suffering by just having ever existed.

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    So Rabid Response 47 is the “official” White House response account? Run by who, some sweating intern trash talking behind a keyboard? Pulled them out of CoD VoIP chat to run the account?

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    It seems deliberate to chop the date off these sorts of posts. It would help to add context, just generally.

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      People always rip on him squeezing blue milk out of that alien seabird’s titties. What got me was the alien seabird turning and staring at Rey while Luke was doing it. Like WTF was that supposed to mean? “This my man, bitch!”

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      Looking at the evidence, this was in October 2023. That was really before what IDF was about to do became clear, and the popular coverage was solely about October 7.

      Question is what his take is after the context became more clear.

      I’m not going to be overly judgemental over a pro Israel stance in October 2023.

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          Yes, Israel has been bad, but even your choice of data shows an issue. You spent 50% of your reply on incidents before 1949, before even Netanyahu was even born. Then another 30% on things that happened after the example of Mark Hamill supporting Israel.

          The most recent incident prior to Hamill’s declared support that you cited was over 20 years prior to October 7th.

          Now the thing is, those incidents aren’t the full picture, but even as you try to support awareness, you skipped over the most relevant misbehavior that could drive understanding for how October 7th came to pass. If even someone trying to convince others manages to gloss over 20 years, how in the world can we expect more neutral bystanders to understand that the situation was more complicated in that moment?

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            Please elaborate on how the situation is “more complicated” to you. As of this past month there only remains about 40% of Gaza that is left unoccupied behind Israel’s imposed “yellow line”; the one where if anyone walks past it they’re shot. There are cities that have been razed to the ground and you say “Israel has been bad” like a misbehaving child.

            Do you think a set of images listing out the multiple occasions where an invading and occupying force has murdered and displaced civillians is an exhaustive one, or the easiest and quickest way of cataloguing a series of warcrimes?

            Also the gap is unfortunately my fault, I have double the 24-26 and missing the original for 02-23, you’ll have to, and scuse the phrase “do your own research” on those years because I can’t be bothered to argue the semantics of the genocide with you when your only argument is ‘You didnt say everything that you possibly could have so I can disregard everything you’ve said as ramblings of an idle mind’

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              I said the situation was (past tense) “more complicated” compared to the then commonly held view that Hamas was just being evil and terroristic on October 7th. I was agreeing that the view was oblivious.

              I was not saying you were wrong, I was saying that even as you point out everyone in the damn world should know better, you didn’t point out the things they would have needed to know. That if it is that difficult for you to highlight the things he should have known, how can we expect him to know about them at a time when people had not been talking about it except for the very recent and very violent October 7th event.

              What came before was bad, but nothing like what happened since and nowhere near as popularly known.

              My point is simply that folks that showed support for Israel in the popular media in October and November of 2023 can be given a break. They weren’t necessarily pro genocide, just oblivious to the nuanced circumstances and focused on the most recent and severe single act, which was committed by Hamas. After the IDF went as far as they did, that obliviousness no longer is understandable.

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                Why do you insist on using past tense to describe what is ongoing, much the same way that nobody can point to an incident where these millionaires and billionaires that are worshipped for their celebrity status have come out and said “I was wrong, what’s going on are daily crimes against humanity the likes of which we have not seen before.”

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                  Feel like you are trying to misunderstand for the sake of being outraged.

                  I was implying that the situation was more ‘nuanced’ and ‘complicated’ at the time of the October 7th attack, that the attack was horrible but it was a bit more complicated due to enduring misbehavior by Israel in Gaza and the West bank, both sides doing bad things. It has become less complicated because it has become absurdly one-sided atrocities by Israel in the recent years.

                  Yes, it would be good to see some folks come back and update their perspective given more information, but I’m still not going to advocate for crucifying someone solely for tacking their name on a letter of solidarity with Israel in the immediate wake of the October 7th attack.

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            “Looking at the evidence, this was in October 2023. That was really before what IDF was about to do became clear”

            I was merely clarifying what the IDF had done, publically, that had been reported on. No goal posts were moved, they just couldn’t see the scope of what was going on before

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        Not that this makes it right, and his views are clearly uninformed (or at least under informed), but he signed that letter like 5 days after the October 7th attack.

        A month later he replied “same here” to a tweet saying “I’m pro-Palestinian AND vehemently anti-Hamas. I’m also pro-Israel AND vehemently anti-Netanyahu.”.

        And several months later he tweeted “I fully support Gaza/Palestine. Despise Hamas.”

        While I would prefer he take a more hard lined stance, and there’s a lot to be said about how taking a soft stance on a genocide might as well be the same as supporting it, I think it’s still fair to say he’s gone less “Dark Side” and more “Fall of the Rebublic era Jedi Master on the Council… uh… side”.

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          yeah, i want to be given grace for my views as i still had (and obviously have) some learning to do so i’m giving him the same. he seems to be heading the right direction. that is the best a person can hope for.

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            Yep, there is no shame in being wrong. Choosing not to learn on the other hand. The fact that he’s continuing to update his views as he learns more is the right action.

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              Right? Wrong but improving is way better than right but getting worse. Give it a few months, I know which one I’d rather have on my side.

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        It’s not as bad as it might appear at first glance.

        In the website the sources seems to be from 2023, just after the october attacks.

        At the time I felt the same way, but Israel just would not stop, so I gradualy changed opinion as I just saw more and more pointless violence and dispicable behavior from Israel.

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          I’m confused. What do you mean “would not stop”? Israel’s response was genocidal mania from the beginning. What was the limit of collective punishment on civilians you were ready to support? Was it measured in weeks or in dead children?

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            To those of us who were completely out of the loop about the Israel/Palestine conflict before 2023, which is most people, the first thing we heard about the entire thing was October 7. So, for a lot of us, the initial response to the conflict was “Why did Palestine do this!?” until shortly thereafter where we all found out why and went “Oh. Nevermind, go Palestine!”

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              Ok. I can’t imagine being completely unfamiliar with the Israel-Palestine conflict, one of the most contentious and bloody conflicts on-goingfor the last 70 years. But I’m from Ireland where it is centred, and ignorance is not always someone’s own fault.

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            Propaganda can mean you don’t have a sense of scale compared to a conceptual strawman defense you’ve been fed your whole life with vague undefined terms. “Terrorism must face retribution? Yeah that makes sense. Wait, how many did you say??” It took someone in my family seeing a graph comparing the number of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians by date back in late 2023 to question and drop the “right to defend themselves from terrorism” ideology.

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            There is so much shit going on these days, combine that with having to deal with a new, stressful job, that my thoughts were mostly:

            Stupid idiots, Israel will go absolutely insane on you after this.


            And I was right, the first few weeks, showed that my prediction was very accurate.

            I did however expect that after a month or two, a stalemate would develop, and proper negotiations would start.

            You know, like a normal conflict.


            But Israel kept killing and destroying, far, far, far beyond the point where Palestine would be any sort of threat, to the point that it became completely absurd.

            It felt like watching a strategy game being played, and Israel wiping out any trace of Palestine to win.


            There was never a specific limit being reached that made me change my mind, it was a sense of how the retaliation became illogical from the point of view of achieving a normal victory, it went beyond that, far beyond that, that was when I flipped.


            TL;DR:

            I flipped once Israel’s goals was shown to be illogical from a normal military response.

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      Would it kill you to be honest instead of posting shit without any context?

      Christ, some of you lefties are worse than the goddamn republicans when it comes to thoughtless propaganda and groupthink.

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        Hehehe, I love being an evil leftie, forcing people to read and google stuff. 😈😈😈

        You’ll never catch me pushing minorities to commit suicide through online harassment like those goody-goody two shoes Righties do. 😈😈😈

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    Also Colonel Christopher “Maverick” Blair, the Heart of the Tiger and Saviour of the Terran Confederation. He did not have blue hair.

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      i bought that game because of him, and because so immersed in it i promptly forgot it had famous voice actor John Rhys-Davies. And featuring Tim Curry as Melek!