“No one, whether you’re trans or not, wants the federal government digging through your identifiable patient information and figuring out what they like and don’t like,” Hack said. “It’s an absolute overreach, and people are really scared.”
Asked whether Hack’s priorities were measures he could support, Platner agreed. “Yes, indeed. They most certainly do,” he said.
Did you proceed to have an obvious nazi tattoo on your chest for a decade and change? Because that’s a big blind spot and a bad look. Like, he’s better than Collins and he’s saying the right stuff, but I won’t trust him until he’s proven himself. You don’t get a nazi tattoo for years and years and not deserve a lot of extra scrutiny. He’s got a lot of work to do.
Dude it’s not an obvious Nazi tattoo when 9 out 10 of the people here couldn’t pick the fucking tattoo out of a lineup.
You’re being wildly ridiculous.
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The people here aren’t observant. It’s literally the goddamn emblem on the SS cap. If you’ve seen a movie featuring nazis ever, you’ve seen the totenkopf. What’s wildly ridiculous is every goddamn body making excuses for a fucking Nazi capital N Nazi tattoo. I keep saying he’s certainly better than Collins because the bar is in fuckin hell but none of you fuckin people actually read that part, you’re all too busy defending a fuckin nazi tattoo. Our options here are that he’s oblivious enough to have a nazi tattoo on his chest for twenty fucking years, or he’s obviously fucking lying about not knowing it was a nazi tattoo and never cared to do anything about it until it got public. These are shit options, but yeah, still better than Collins. Stop fuckin making excuses for Nazi tattoos, like fuckin hell I know lemmings love fascism but christ but maybe not make excuses for the fuckin poster child. Congratulations, now you also have comments defending nazi tattoos. This is why Americans fucking deserve the government we have. We ask for it, because apparently holding someone to account for a fucking Nazi tattoo is too much for you fucking people. I’d have a lot more respect for the fucker if he just admitted he was a dumb fucking kid that didn’t think it was a big deal instead of lying about knowing what it was.
I honestly could see him not knowing, especially if the other fascist fucks he was hanging out with were getting the same ink.
But that’s a “makes bad decisions” discussion rather than a “maybe it’s not as Nazi as you think” discussion.
It’s totally, 110% Nazi. The only remaining question is “did it represent his views then, and does it represent his views now?”
Nope. Just woke up on the sub with a shiner and a bank account that had been completely drained, neither of which I had an explanation for.
Yeah and this is the point I made about giving people space to have changed. Mainers have had that kind of grace, and if you believe in grass-roots democracy, you should trust them at this point. And its funny because I make the point, people seem to nod their heads along, and then always, there is some chirper who wants to pipe in and say “not good enough”. And its really a catastrophic sickness in the current leftist populist moment in the US, which we can easily contrast with the rightwing populist moment (both started at the same time).
The rightwing movement has been inclusive, and the leftwing movement has been exclusive; and because of that difference in ideology, the rightwing movement took over for the previous 10 years and enacted their agenda: fascism. And you (and others) are doing it right here. Your trying to find a way to exclude someone from the movement. Rightwing populism has been doing the opposite. When they identify someone who could be an ally, they find a way to make a seat for them at the table. Its a horrible, fascist, disgusting table, but its been able to grow its membership because they’ll take all comers and speak to how their movement will address their grievances.
The entire point being made is that the very thing you are doing is a self-destructive, reactionary tendency which has knee-capped our ability to grow a leftist populism which can confront fascism. And I wont’ deny there are other factors to surmount in this regard, but this self-sabotaging instinct is fundamental to why things have been so difficult. Thankfully though, as the movement has grown, this voice of yours which is typically online, and very disconnected from lived experience, its volume becomes lost in the crowd.
The very thing I’m doing is not implicitly trusting a man that claims he didn’t realize he had a nazi tattoo on his chest for twenty years. A nazi tattoo that he says he got in Croatia and it’s a fair assumption that wasn’t the only displayed nazi iconography there. And everyone who’s seen him shirtless for twenty years to also not have any idea. Like, I’d rather he just admit to having known what it was because otherwise he and his circle have a significant amount of ignorance that’s especially relevant when actual nazis are getting elected. I’m not being unreasonable or self destructive here. Until he proves with significant action otherwise, I’m going to assume he’s the kinda guy that would get a nazi tattoo, because he did. Army bullshit is still a bullshit excuse. I’m giving him all the grace he deserves, which is enough for him to win the primary innit? But talk is cheap from anyone, especially someone who had a death’s head on their tit for twenty years and still claims to not know what it was. So when he gets elected and starts backing up his words, he’ll get the credit that’s absolutely due. Sure people can change, but the burden of proof to show with actions consistently that they have changed is on them.
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And then you turn directly to anger and insults?
LOL which Republican candidate do you work for?
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