Do you have any experience in product development? They went through a design process and unfortunately for them, when came time to choose a storage and RAM solution, they had to do it through the current price crisis.
So they either had to table the design and lose their development money or go through with it with the current storage and RAM cost.
Yes I do have experience, in fact it’s core to my job.
The cost to design is significant and wasting a few years of development is not a light decision. So Valve either had to scrap the design and waste the development cost, or price it according to the current PC parts prices
You are right that people can DIY, but it always was an option and people still buy ready-made computers, so that’s a moot point.
The price for comparable parts and same form factor isn’t far off from DIY.
They’re also trying to make Steam OS available to install on any PC, so any argument of “AlL tHeY tHiNk AbOuT iS pRoFiTs” goes out the door there. I think the only struggle right now is getting it to work with NVidia graphics cards or something.
The small form factor isn’t really a big thing people care about. It definitely doesn’t outweigh it being outdated, underpowered, and forever stuck at that power level.
It’s noticeably less powerful than comparably priced PCs
those are bigger, and many people that want to game on TV don’t want such a bulky box besides it.
It’s noticeably less powerful than consoles costing hundreds of dollars less
console makers are selling their consoles at a loss, because they expect you to buy insanely overpriced games or get a subscription.
I think it was said in the GN video that valve couldn’t sell it at a loss even if they wanted to, because they are essentially selling a PC and they would be targeted with antitrust lawsuits for selling at a loss
It is not customizable in any meaningful way.
I guess that’s the price of consoles and tiny PCs. you won’t be able to make them without custom components.
Because they are a for profit company with a billionaire ceo. Making profits it’s their job.
BTW, try putting together a same or better spec build yourself and get back to us with the cost.
The price you pay for something in a store is not the same price valve pays for a stock of parts. They buy the same stuff for a lot cheaper and resell it at an higher price to make profits.
It’s hard to believe that it’s just a RAM issue.
Valve is going full Apple with the SSD upgrade. They’re making a healthy profit from each system they sell.
It’s both RAM and storage price. A 2TB NVMe cost upward of 300$ CAD.
Did you for get that when they upgrade the storage to 2TB they do not also include the 512GB storage included in the low end model?
Could be said for literally every single product ever made, come back to reality, holy fucking shit dude.
Valve is making a bad deal worse. By being needlessly greedy.
I am in the reality where all the other gaming consoles massively outperform it while costing hundreds less and also providing a controller.
Do you have any experience in product development? They went through a design process and unfortunately for them, when came time to choose a storage and RAM solution, they had to do it through the current price crisis.
So they either had to table the design and lose their development money or go through with it with the current storage and RAM cost.
Does it matter if I have experience in product development? Do you?
A product has to justify its cost. This one does not.
You can DIY or buy a pre-built that massively outperforms Valve’s console.
Yes I do have experience, in fact it’s core to my job.
The cost to design is significant and wasting a few years of development is not a light decision. So Valve either had to scrap the design and waste the development cost, or price it according to the current PC parts prices
You are right that people can DIY, but it always was an option and people still buy ready-made computers, so that’s a moot point.
The price for comparable parts and same form factor isn’t far off from DIY.
My point is that even pre-built PCs are cheaper and better in every way other than size.
Going on microcenter and Best Buy can easily get you a better gaming PC even with the AI apocalypse going on.
Why shouldn’t they? Margins are going to be tight btw, so they’re really not. What they’re really selling is a vehicle for Steam.
BTW, try putting together a same or better spec build yourself and get back to us with the cost.
They’re also trying to make Steam OS available to install on any PC, so any argument of “AlL tHeY tHiNk AbOuT iS pRoFiTs” goes out the door there. I think the only struggle right now is getting it to work with NVidia graphics cards or something.
You can easily make a better pc for cheaper. Plenty of reviews showed this.
For like $50-$100 cheaper. And they all ignored the small form factor which could easily cost that.
The small form factor isn’t really a big thing people care about. It definitely doesn’t outweigh it being outdated, underpowered, and forever stuck at that power level.
You can build and buy a pre-built PC that easily outperforms the Steam console.
that does not make sense. you are not building a pre-built, because then its not a pre-built. is the sky cloudy over there?
I meant that pre-built or DIY are both better deals. I realize now that I should have been more clear.
This Steam console is bad when discussing performance and value. It has a nice design.
oh, yes that makes sense
I really feel like Valve spend a bunch of R&D to make something that doesn’t fix any issues with PC gaming.
It’s noticeably less powerful than comparably priced PCs
It’s noticeably less powerful than consoles costing hundreds of dollars less
It doesn’t come with a controller.
It is not customizable in any meaningful way. 
 This feels like a valves version of the Wii U. Neat hardware, but ultimately underpowered and overpriced with little to no way to lower the cost.
those are bigger, and many people that want to game on TV don’t want such a bulky box besides it.
console makers are selling their consoles at a loss, because they expect you to buy insanely overpriced games or get a subscription.
I think it was said in the GN video that valve couldn’t sell it at a loss even if they wanted to, because they are essentially selling a PC and they would be targeted with antitrust lawsuits for selling at a loss
I guess that’s the price of consoles and tiny PCs. you won’t be able to make them without custom components.
Because they are a for profit company with a billionaire ceo. Making profits it’s their job.
The price you pay for something in a store is not the same price valve pays for a stock of parts. They buy the same stuff for a lot cheaper and resell it at an higher price to make profits.