• rafoix@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    Did you for get that when they upgrade the storage to 2TB they do not also include the 512GB storage included in the low end model?

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      3 days ago

      Could be said for literally every single product ever made, come back to reality, holy fucking shit dude.

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        3 days ago

        Valve is making a bad deal worse. By being needlessly greedy.

        I am in the reality where all the other gaming consoles massively outperform it while costing hundreds less and also providing a controller.

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          2 days ago

          Do you have any experience in product development? They went through a design process and unfortunately for them, when came time to choose a storage and RAM solution, they had to do it through the current price crisis.

          So they either had to table the design and lose their development money or go through with it with the current storage and RAM cost.

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            2 days ago

            Does it matter if I have experience in product development? Do you?

            A product has to justify its cost. This one does not.

            You can DIY or buy a pre-built that massively outperforms Valve’s console.

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              2 days ago

              Yes I do have experience, in fact it’s core to my job.

              The cost to design is significant and wasting a few years of development is not a light decision. So Valve either had to scrap the design and waste the development cost, or price it according to the current PC parts prices

              You are right that people can DIY, but it always was an option and people still buy ready-made computers, so that’s a moot point.

              The price for comparable parts and same form factor isn’t far off from DIY.

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                2 days ago

                My point is that even pre-built PCs are cheaper and better in every way other than size.

                Going on microcenter and Best Buy can easily get you a better gaming PC even with the AI apocalypse going on.

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                  2 days ago

                  My point is that even pre-built PCs are cheaper and better in every way other than size.

                  Size is a big factor here. Steam made a console sized PC.

                  There isn’t a lot of PC case that size. And the list of PC parts for SFF are limited and more expensive than their normal counterparts.

                  So yeah, if you want a full tower PC in your living room, don’t buy the Steam Machine. But I haven’t seen a PC build of that size cost less.

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                    2 days ago

                    Size, energy use and design are the main positives of the steam machine.

                    Time will tell if there is enough of a market for that type of device.