• AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    You have not seen people trying to burn down their GP. Quit making shit up.

    As for being suicidal… That sounds like a pretty good reason to give people access to the medical care they actually need.

    Imagine for a minute that you are a man and were in a car accident. During this accident your dick was cut off.

    Surgical techniques exist to reattach your dick but the law says you must now live as a woman. You find a doctor who is willing to reattach your penis, something that you don’t have an infinite amount of time to do because it’s rapidly becoming a non-viable penis.

    Suddenly, some asshole goes on television and says that people who want to have their penises reattached are pedophiles and any doctor who helps them is a monster. They put your picture on the news, they tell everybody that you’re trying to pretend you’re not a woman now.

    How much of that do you think you need to put up with before you get pretty fucking pissed off?

    Who’s insane here? Who’s acting irrationally? Who is the aggressor?

    I’m a bog standard model of human male but I think if I were put in that situation I’d be weighing the value of the life of a person who would deny me my own body.

    • Flax@feddit.uk
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      19 hours ago

      How about you quit gaslighting me?

      I don’t necessarily have anything against sex reassignment surgery. It’s a person’s body, and if it’s what medical experts think is best for their immediate mental wellbeing, then I think it’s fair, although should be a last resort as it’s permanent.

      I am aware some people do get the sex reassignment surgery and it doesn’t help them, turns out it was a different problem and they just persuaded themselves that it would be what would fix their problem (which occasionally is other traumas or underlying self hatred). I’ve also known people who’ve pulled out of transitioning due to them realising it wasn’t the solution to their problem.

      I’ve also seen people who’ve tried everything, tried to live a normal life, but the dysphoria also got them down.

      I do think there should be research done into seeing if there is a cure or therapies for gender dysphoria, and use sex changes as a last resort. but right now, sex changes appear to be one of the most effective options if someone is truly experiencing dysphoria. But again, they should have everything else ruled out first (instead of the headcase that I referenced in the video above, sounds like she first self diagnosed online, started self treating, THEN went to her GP demanding further treatment for an illness they hadn’t even been diagnosed with. That’s like the time I had symptoms of anaemia and people were suggesting I skip the GP and get iron tablets, when it turned out to be a folate deficiency, because I went to a GP)

      I’m aware of the arguments for and against the trans debate. I’ve been often changing my opinions on it, back and forth. But I hate the climate around it where you have to conform to a specific viewpoint or get labelled as a “bigot”.

      To both sides, what I’d say: If you believe me to be a monster for not 100% agreeing with you, then just conclude that I’m a monster already. I’m sick of playing these games, trying to change my opinion to appease others. I’d rather we would focus on supporting people and preserving life and what’s best for them.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        I do think there should be research done into seeing if there is a cure or therapies for gender dysphoria, and use sex changes as a last resort.

        but right now, sex changes appear to be one of the most effective options if someone is truly experiencing dysphoria. But again, they should have everything else ruled out first

        The most effective (and reversible) treatment should be a last resort, because you think that people aren’t truly experiencing dysphoria, and even if they are everything else needs to be ruled out first.

        the video you cite is someone who is impoverished and unwell dealing with a system that is intentionally disfunctional and has clearly been overreacting making threats that aren’t even really actionable considering how poor they are. Having a mental health condition exacerbated by poverty and a disfunctional healthcare system doesn’t mean your other conditions aren’t real.

        Broadly speaking being gender nonconforming is more likely to cause you to end up in poverty simply because your bigoted family might just cut all support from you and leave you to fend for yourself with a hostile system. having to live in poverty and not even able to get medical care then exacerbates pretty much every underlying mental health issue regardless of gender.

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          Sex change operations carry permanent effects. They aren’t reversible like puberty blockers. A simple google search will teach you that. This is where emotion and agenda contradicts medical fact. If somebody isn’t actually experiencing dysphoria, then they shouldn’t get a sex change. It needs to be confirmed that they actually are experiencing dysphoria and not self conscious like some people I know have been, including myself, and thus thinking a different gender identity is the solution when it isn’t. At one point in my life I wanted my nose removed.

          A family kicking someone out for having gender identity issues is disgusting and not okay.