AI slop aside, I’m not even sure most of the people who slaughtered natives were just following orders (in many cases there probably weren’t even orders)… Manifest Destiny was pretty ingrained at the time.
ICE: “I’m following orders and also love doing this shit!”
Why isn’t the SS guy saying, “ich folge nur Befehlen” I think he might be a spy
Slop. Stop this shit.
This is AI?
Yes. Look at the nazi in the middle. He only has three fingers. Generally the anatomy is illogical in all three panels. Arms disappearing into nothing hands holding on to nothing eyes melting into nonsense on several characters. This wasn’t drawing by a human.
It is pretty ironic to me that someone is essentially trying to criticize the people who are currently ruining the world by using the very tech they developed to help them ruin the world. But whatever, I guess. It’s convenient and that outweighs artistic integrity, cultural integrity and care for the environment. Let’s just all mindlessly use these things that annihilates our planet at an even faster rate while the people whose hard work this glorified image generator steals from is being butchered and made worthless. It’s good for the culture to have it become soulless slop.
The fucking irony of them to then make an image that shows complicity and irresponsibility of the people who just did what everyone did at the time instead of resisting is a very funny meta layer that I don’t think they intended. I would rather they drew that meme themselves. Stick figures if they couldn’t draw. It doesn’t matter. The point would come across still, but no. They just had to go use a theft machine because why actually bother when you can just press a button? Why put effort into anything anymore? Why learn a craft when the AI can do all of that for you? Viva la revolución!
AI-generated. Thanks for training my neural network (brain) to identify more AI-generated images (slop).
What tipped ya off the weird faces or the woman with her child clone?
The font (a little bit weird-looking) and the texturing of the image (way too overdone). From that, I noticed the comic lacked a signature or watermark from a comic author, then I noticed that the characters are all just gazing into the distance.
First hint was the weird fist in the first panel. Why would you clench your hand in front of someone’s arm if you’re trying to restrain them? It almost looks like he’s holding the guy by the hair.
All the comics from the new GPT have the same style, you don’t even need to pixel peep. They just all have the same art style.
Yeah, and they often have the issue of people looking in kind of random directions that don’t make sense.
Extra finger as well.Damn this one was good though, would’ve missed it if I hadn’t checked the comments and taken a closer look.Edit: I can’t count apparently. If anything there are missing fingers.
Where is the extra finger? I swear I can’t find it. A disappearing pinky
I feel like most artists would make the daughter similar to their mother. I don’t see how that’s weird.
The characters all have different and “accurate” reactions
Sherif is stern.
SS is annoyed.
ICE shows some compassion
Native American is noble
Jew is startled
“Illegal Aliens” are scared
There are a lot of details in everything.
If it wasn’t for the comments I wouldn’t think it is AI, but I do feel like people bandwagon on it. Top comment says AI, and everyone is going to say AI.
Indian guy on the left has one less finger on his left hand. Nazi in the middle lacks a finger, indan man’s right eye is a typical AI distortion, so are the eyes on the children in the last picture. The ear details on all characters are inconsistent and are either drawing in different styles or turns into AI-nonsense as in the case of the kids’ ears. There are tangent with the Jewish face and the buttons on the nazi’s uniform as well as tangents between the woman’s hair and the ICE-man’s uniform that are typical for AI-nonsense. The SS logo on the nazi’s uniform is AI-nonsense, as well as the emblem’s on his cap. It is supposed to be an eagle and a skull on his cap, but the skull is nonsense and the “eagle” has no head. An artist wouldn’t make that mistake.
Many of the mistakes in this comic are mistakes that you can only make if you have no understanding of what you are drawing. AI doesn’t understand that human hands have 5 fingers nor that eyes tend to have eyeballs on them. An artist doesn’t tend to change ear details on characters unless it is a deliberate design choice, which it clearly isn’t here as all characters are designed within the same style.
I know this because I am an artist. When I look at drawings other people made I can see the thought and design that went into them because as artists we have to understand what we see to draw it correctly. Someone at this level of skill would not make these careless and stupid mistakes.
Aww shit, I just can’t count fingers. Maybe I’m the real AI. Yeah I’m still not sure that this is AI. I hate that we have to have this discussion.
What’s more annoying? That people have the ability to generate content with AI, or that everyone on lemmy constantly complains about it?
You’re banging your heads against walls over and over. Stop. Shut up.
The second one
I think this community needs to have a conversation about whether we keep allowing AI comics.
It’s a no for me but I’m willing to vote.
I would vote “no” as well, but I imagine they’re here to stay.
There’s a vote under every post. Feel free.
Nice “gotcha”. But you know what I meant. We should discuss adding it as a sub rule - so we can report it for AI as they come.
fuck your sub rules. this ain’t reddit and i’m out once it becomes that way.
As is your right. If the community agrees to make a change, and you don’t like that change, you’re welcome to leave the community. Congrats on having free will!
When I’ve got 10,000 AI generated candidates on my ballot and its my job to pick out the half dozen real submissions, it feels like there’s a structural problem with the election’s process.
So you want to make someone else do it for you?
I don’t see a shortage of eager self-motivated artists. What I see is a social media space crowding them out with slop.
the funny thing is that that’s the icon for adobe illustrator.
inkscape ftw
Lol I had no idea. Works both ways tbh
This is why I custom order all my memes direct from people on Fiverr
Saw this on a thread a while back:
The funny and sad thing is I think the original panel was showing American imperialism against historical Nazi facism (soldier attire), so it was very easily repurposed for the next ethnostate of Israel with the Nazi flag being redundant against the very obvious German soldier.
Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?
Because sometimes people have an idea for a relevant comic, but not the artistic ability to draw it. So, they use AI tools to create the artwork.
Damn, you’re right, artistic talent is totally required to make webcomics.
I apologise for my glib response. I don’t doubt your sincerity. Things may change in the future. It’s just that in this particular historical moment AI has as much to do with democratising talent as nfts did with supporting solo artists/creators.
I am sorry. This combination is no longer allowed. Internet gatekeepers have spoken.
edit: obligatory /s?
???
Regardless of my personal dislike towards AI, which I didn’t even express, I was just making an observation.
I think they were sarcastically replying to you. Pretending to be someone who actually has that opinion.
My comment is a little higher in the chain, they didn’t reply to me
Ah. Then I can understand your reply a little more. Still, you can consider their reply directed at everybody else in the thread bemoaning AI.
AI shitposting is effortless.
The message: 👍
The AI generated slop: 🫤
I could’ve made this art.
Do it.
Shocking truth:
Humans can make all art made by AI.
Humans can make all calculations made by computers.
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
Incidentally, for all of the “this is AI” brigade, what are you picking up on? I’m not picking up on any of the classic tells. Aside from the closed fists in the first and last image, where I’d personally go for an open hand, I don’t see anything obviously amiss.
Dude pulling on native american person’s braid, mother and daughter look too similar, mom’s hand is messed up, SS logos are messed up
There’s a wave of AI generated comics hitting lemmy right now. At first i was in the same boat as you, found it difficult to identify
Now after seeing more and more, my brain’s detection algorithms are updating.
I’m quite good at seeing obvious AI slop images, but comics was a totallly new thing i had to learn to detect
Ah, thanks for that!
I was genuinely interested because I used to lecture when the GANs first started appearing. Ironically enough, I used to point out to the students how you could tell photos were generated (mismatching ears shapes, asymmetrical glasses, oddly shaped jewellery etc.).
Seems like I need more exposure to the comic art side of things!
If you’re interested in seeing how good it’s gotten now, some are impressive https://sora.com/explore/images
What ever you do, don’t look at the Native American’s eyes. 🥴
😳😬
The eyes, mostly. The braid thing is weird, too.
Hands, faces, eyes, insignias. The usual shit.
Yea, I don’t mind AI for personal use stuff like this. But AI in commercial stuff is a big no go.
To me, it is not even the commercial stuff that matters. AI-generated image should never be in public domain because it is all stolen from others, piece by piece. The copyright is a big question mark.
I agree with this entirely. I personally use AI to help me do things that I don’t have the time to do “the old fashioned way”.
I can draw, paint, sing, sculpt, etc, and I enjoy doing all these things very much. But I don’t have time any more - I have a full-time job, two kids taking up most of my time, and Long COVID means I’m asleep for almost all of what would be left over.
I’ve used AI to help me bring 2d art, music and 3d models into this world that would otherwise be trapped in my head.
Humans can make all art made by AI.
They didn’t say “A human could make this”, they said “I could make this.”
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
This counters another argument that wasn’t made. Sure, the end product has some value, but also comes with the negatives that some people see as intrinsic in the use of AI.
what are you picking up on?
but you didn’t.
What’s your point?
You know when you repost someone else’s work, you should at least say who made it, right?
AI-generated artwork has thousands if not millions artists’ names attached to it.
I don’t understand. I mean, you’re right, of course. But, who are you answering? What are you answering?
Did AI make this? It looks like it
It was just following orders.
KOLANAKI
Nah dw the mom just has epidermodysplasia verruciformis
Why is that man pulling her braid lol
I don’t want to assume their gender but that’s a man, baby!
Must’ve trained the AI on Wheel of Time.
…he’s just following orders
Dont love the AI slop but appreciate the message
Dont love the AI
Are the taking Lemmy as revenue away from artists? Are they selling this commercially? Should they have commissioned a perfessional artist for your free meme?
Something about trying to appeal to human emotions with robot creations doesn’t sit right sith me.
So I guess you’re opposed to CGI in movies as well, or any comic that isn’t hand drawn and scanned?
Shit, that’s using a scanner… Hand drawn and a picture taken… Nope. That doesn’t work either. Printed in a… Fuck.
I guess you only approve of comics hand drawn by people that show you the original in person?
Why are you making such a strawman? Using an AI model to completely generate a picture is obviously not the same as using the tools you mention here.
In regards to “using a robot creation to appeal to human emotions” it is. I highly doubt the prompt was “created a comic that appeals to human emotions”. Someone had a specific idea and told the AI specifically what to make, the AI did not “decide” what would appeal to human emotions.
The AI hate train in action
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No, I just think it looks like shit
There’s an XKCD for that
It does seem a little odd to include the USA twice and not to include China or the USSR once. They could have even included Dutch slavers putting Africans on a boat.
Lads here me out on this it might sound a bit harsh but I’m starting to think them fasists are cunts
One of the few good things about WW2 is a lot of fascists died.
Fascist: “We’re just following orders.”
Liberal: “Court orders?”
Fascist: “Shut up and get in the van.”
Liberal: “Okay, but I’m going to post a frowny face about it on Twitter.”
