The idea that you have to register to vote is not normal in most democracies.
For example, in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk. You don’t have to register to vote, you just get mail a while before the election with a paper that you take to the voting booth, which is usually a few minutes walk away.
Such a system prevents fraud (which is already a non-issue in the USA, even with its confusing and difficult system), and also makes it easy for as many people to vote.
The goal of voter ID laws is to provide ways to disenfranchise people, by making things slightly harder and create plausible points to not count some ballots.
in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk
That’s pretty disgusting. Are you sure though? Some Americans think this about America too. If true, why not just tattoo subtle ids on people or force facial/other recognition and fingerprinting and iris scanning on everyone. What age do you have to start carrying id?
In my country i just get my vote-note in the mail. In America you now have to own a passport which most doesn’t, be a member of a party, which 90mil eligible voters aren’t, and hope that your boss has the same political views as you, so he lets you off work to go vote.
It is! Some countries use a “permanent” ink to prevent voting twice, but yes, just let people vote.
Let’s imagine one person one vote, but without voter ID. Now, one person can be 10 people…IF that one person wants to set the record for “easiest voter fraud conviction ever.”
In-person election fraud isn’t a thing that statistically happens.
However, requiring an ID does SUPPRESS turnout in countries that are deporting so quickly they sometimes accidently deport their own citizens and can’t get them back (true story bro).
So you fixed a problem that doesn’t exist, but hurt poor and marginalized people. Sounds like a shitty idea.
In a place as polarized and corrupt as the US, Voter ID is merely a tool to keep Red or Blue in power. Tomfoolery involving the invalidation of a side’s enemies’ IDs is near certain.
The fact that Trump is saying out loud that voter ID laws would “allow them to win all future elections” should give you a clue as to why not.
Voter ID laws, at face value, are not the problem. The problem is that Republicans have made getting a valid ID damn near difficult in typically blue areas.
Not only that, there are simply no cases of voter fraud in the US where a voter ID would have stopped said fraud. Voter Fraud, as it happens, is so rare that the only really effective way to commit fraud is by ballot stuffing which, surprise surprise, Republicans have consistently been caught doing.
Voter ID laws shouldn’t be controversial, they are enacted in most democracies.
Both true and not true.
The idea that you have to register to vote is not normal in most democracies.
For example, in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk. You don’t have to register to vote, you just get mail a while before the election with a paper that you take to the voting booth, which is usually a few minutes walk away.
Such a system prevents fraud (which is already a non-issue in the USA, even with its confusing and difficult system), and also makes it easy for as many people to vote.
The goal of voter ID laws is to provide ways to disenfranchise people, by making things slightly harder and create plausible points to not count some ballots.
That’s pretty disgusting. Are you sure though? Some Americans think this about America too. If true, why not just tattoo subtle ids on people or force facial/other recognition and fingerprinting and iris scanning on everyone. What age do you have to start carrying id?
I am quite sure. I was out with a friend and he got fined for not carrying ID. The legal requirement starts at 16.
Any obstruction to voting should be controversial.
Requiring identification is an obstruction to voting?
In my country i just get my vote-note in the mail. In America you now have to own a passport which most doesn’t, be a member of a party, which 90mil eligible voters aren’t, and hope that your boss has the same political views as you, so he lets you off work to go vote.
It is! Some countries use a “permanent” ink to prevent voting twice, but yes, just let people vote.
Let’s imagine one person one vote, but without voter ID. Now, one person can be 10 people…IF that one person wants to set the record for “easiest voter fraud conviction ever.”
In-person election fraud isn’t a thing that statistically happens.
However, requiring an ID does SUPPRESS turnout in countries that are deporting so quickly they sometimes accidently deport their own citizens and can’t get them back (true story bro).
So you fixed a problem that doesn’t exist, but hurt poor and marginalized people. Sounds like a shitty idea.
I’m pretty sure you can answer that one for yourself.
In a place as polarized and corrupt as the US, Voter ID is merely a tool to keep Red or Blue in power. Tomfoolery involving the invalidation of a side’s enemies’ IDs is near certain.
Hmm. Why would a .ml user support voter ID laws I wonder?
Why not?
The fact that Trump is saying out loud that voter ID laws would “allow them to win all future elections” should give you a clue as to why not.
Voter ID laws, at face value, are not the problem. The problem is that Republicans have made getting a valid ID damn near difficult in typically blue areas.
Not only that, there are simply no cases of voter fraud in the US where a voter ID would have stopped said fraud. Voter Fraud, as it happens, is so rare that the only really effective way to commit fraud is by ballot stuffing which, surprise surprise, Republicans have consistently been caught doing.