Exclusive: US could cut Ukraine's access to Starlink internet services over minerals, say sources
neuters.de
Ukraine's access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in talks between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Bessent.
  • US negotiators told Ukraine US could shutoff Starlink if minerals deal not reached
  • SpaceX-owned satellite internet service vital for Ukraine
  • Zelenskiy says U.S. and Ukraine working on an agreement
  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    1928·
    10 hours ago

    Jesus fucking christ. If you do this, and exploit Ukraine while they are literally under the gun, the US will be dead to the rest of the western world.

    I cannot express how hard you can go fuck yourselves.

    The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans. Fuck you, you selfish, coward, pieces of shit.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        32·
        2 hours ago

        Come on doc, you’ve gotta help us, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!

        • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
          6·
          54 minutes ago

          what? you want more? i can turn the socialized healthcare lever on as well. there it is! right there.

          its so simple!

          any other changes you think you want? i can grab a magic wand, if that will make you feel better.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            5 minutes ago

            Oh yes of course, the whole world has of course been watching the mass protests and general strike being organized with baited breath, oh wait.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      15·
      3 hours ago

      American here: hard agree. This is all insane, but it’s predictable, and they told us about it ahead of time, and people still fucking voted for it. We shat the bed, now we must lie in it.

      I’m probably gonna try to leave the country and renounce my citizenship at some point, particularly if the next few months are as catastrophic as I think they’ll be.

    • hornedfiend@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      211·
      6 hours ago

      I was planning a holiday in the US this or next year, but decided not to proceed with it. I’d rather go anywhere else now really. Currently for me Russia = India = China = North Korea = USA now. Plenty of european countries I’d rather throw my money at.

    • overload@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      1083·
      10 hours ago

      I think a global boycott on US-made goods + services is necessary. Trump can only do this because the US is such a powerhouse.

      • Zeoic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        5 hours ago

        That is already happening in Canada. Those imperialists threatening annexation was finally what brought us Canadians together on something lol

          • Sturgist@lemmy.caEnglish
            3·
            4 hours ago

            I think I heard something about easing trade barriers between Ontario and I think it was either Saskatchewan or Manitoba.

      • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
        29·
        8 hours ago

        Would be nice to see global sanctions against the US. Not realistic, but I hope all countries are moving towards significantly reducing American reliance. It’ll be a slow process, but needs to be done.

        • Vipsu@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          8 hours ago

          Honestly sanctions agains companies like these that can be weaponized politically sounds very reasonable.

          They are national security threat in the true meaning of the word.

      • eran_morad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        111·
        7 hours ago

        Just relax and let trump continue destroying the USA. He’s doing putin’s work and fucking us all, Europeans and Americans alike.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish
        532·
        9 hours ago

        The US is only such a powerhouse, because they generally have the support of their allies. That makes it the unparalleled biggest economic block in the world.
        But without their allies, USA isn’t that much stronger than China economically. And USA wouldn’t be nearly the powerhouse they’ve gotten used to be.

        So China just has to look on and do nothing, while USA is losing their world dominance quickly.

      • asap@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        9 hours ago

        I moved all my cloud computing from DO and Vultr to European owned options. It’s a small thing, but it’s about the only thing that I had been purchasing from the USA.

    • Mister_Feeny@fedia.io
      365·
      9 hours ago

      The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans.

      As an American, I’d just like to say we absolutely deserve this.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        5 minutes ago

        No we don’t. Trump deserves to be kicked to the curb, but Americans are absolutely fine, if a bit short sighted.

        A country is not its leadership, it’s the people. And it’s incredibly hard for the people to replace their leadership outside of election season, and even then, there’s a lot of pressure to make poor choices on your ballot.

      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.caEnglish
        38·
        2 hours ago

        All Amerikans deserve this and worse because they sit at home and complain online while a literal textbook definition of a coup is happening to their country. The country that literally screeches at the top of its lungs about the second amendment and right to have a gun “in case of a tyrannical government”. Not a single shot fired. No protests, just complaints. Y’all gave up your country without a fight.

        • Septimaeus@infosec.pubEnglish
          1·
          41 minutes ago

          We’re definitely protesting. It may not make international news, but every day there are angry crowds outside government buildings or in the streets of our cities. The last I went to was this past Monday in NY and there were at least a few thousand of us. Personally I think we need more serious measures but protesting is a start.

    • marv99@feddit.orgEnglish
      212·
      9 hours ago

      I understand your feelings, and I share them. Let’s stay strong and united, refusing to let fear or hatred divide us. Remember, we have allies in America who stand against extremism and are working tirelessly to promote justice and equality. There is a growing movement of brave activists, judges, and everyday Americans who are standing up against these challenges. It’s crucial that we support them and let them know they are not alone. Together we are stronger.

      You can find an overview of the current resistance in yesterday’s post on Substack: https://robertreich.substack.com/p/ten-reasons-for-optimism

      • Broadfern@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        5 hours ago

        As someone who didn’t vote for the Cheeto Nazi, thank you for the nuance.

        That said, comment OP and anyone reading this - please boycott and sanction the US! Starving the billionaire leeches and smacking government into pretending they have an iota of decorum or sense is necessary, and any outside influence on that is helpful.

    • brewery@lemmy.worldEnglish
      93·
      9 hours ago

      Exactly. I’m already thinking about pulling my pension pot out of any US investments. It’s a tiny amount but maybe we can start a movement to keep pension investments in countries and systems you believe in, not whatever mix are typically used

      • jaemo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        5 hours ago

        Canadian. I’ve divested 100% of my meagre savings out of us stocks. USA is not a reliable trading partner, or a leader in anything anymore except deceit.

      • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafeEnglish
        6·
        8 hours ago

        Given there is going to be serious economic disruption there is a lot be said for diversifying your assets. If most of your assets are currently in the US moving your pension fund into assets held outside it is a strong de-risking move, particularly if you can move it out of the country totally using a foreign prover provider as well as holding non-US assets(not sure if that last is legally possible, don’t know much about your pension system).

        Note you may get poorer performance - it’s really up in the air just yet what the short term impacts will be economically (depends what King Mango ends up deciding, it’s mostly speculation right now)

        Edit for typo