• millie@beehaw.org
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    1 month ago

    It astounds me that people legitimately assume that the other animals on this planet don’t feel pain. It seems incredibly obvious to me that they would, or that we should at least be assuming they would.

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      5 days ago

      I think only the extremely simple life doesn’t feel pain, but then you have arrived on a microscopic level, where some tiny creature is getting eaten while eating themselves.

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      1 month ago

      Evolution wise. It makes sense for animals that cannot regrow limbs.

      But for some animals it can actually limit their survival.

      Unfortunatly human history. Has a habit of deciding based on our needs. Rather then actual evidence.

      Its also worth remembering pain is a mental rather then real thing.

      So while some creatures may have the signals to inform. Thjoer mind may not respond to it on the same way.

      As a human(i assume ;). If you have ever needed to use opiates you may have some idea how that would work.

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          1 month ago

          It is a signal warning of harm.

          Your response is mental. Hence when opiates like tramadol shut of the signa. Receptors you still feel the se station of pain. But do not suffer the same way.

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      1 month ago

      They assume, at various times, even other humans arent human enough therefore the same concepts (such as pain & suffering) don’t really apply.

      It’s a standard coping mechanism that might be necessary but it’s definitely misused by humans for no other reason than greed (especially in times when scarcity isn’t really a notable concern).

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    1 month ago

    As much as I hate to see pain and suffering in the world, animals have no qualms about eating other animals alive.

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      1 month ago

      Animals also rape each other (and sometimes other species), kill the children of other fathers, urinate and shit wherever they want… To be logically consistent, you’re also arguing that all of those things are fine for us to do too.

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          Unless I misinterpreted your argument, it seemed like you were justifying this practice based on the fact that other animals besides us inflict pain and suffering on other animals. If that is the core argument, then to be logically consistent, you’d have to also be ok with us doing everything else I mentioned.