• ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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      15 hours ago

      how do they do regular updates? how do they do major version upgrades?

      I think both of these is a big pain point.

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        15 hours ago

        They’re fine for a stable release I think. Nvidia is on 550 for example. For Major updates, ping me next year since I’ll try it then, when new Leap arrived.

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          12 hours ago

          I don’t understand, sorry. what I meant is the way you as the user do upgrades. you grab a terminal, elevate and run the system update command (zypper refresh, zypper update). major version upgrades are more complicated.

          I can do this sure. But this is not noob friendly the slightest. and the YaST graphical tools don’t make it much better either.
          I won’t say that the update system of windows is good because why the fuck does searching for updates minutes, and other reasons. but the UI of it is much better. it tells you what will it update, it has a button for starting the process, an automatism for it too. there’s also a menu for the update history.

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            12 hours ago

            Not sure when the last time you used openSUSE but the reason why I think it’s noob-friendly is you don’t need a terminal to update the system (talking about the KDE version here). When there is an update a notification pops up, you go to system tray, click on the icon and do the updates. You can even see a list what’s been updating. It doesn’t even ask a password, probably thanks to polkit.

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                11 hours ago

                To be fair, that sounds like a driver issue rather than a desktop environment. But you can try though.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Could be. What blows my mind is that both my PC and laptop work on Fedora, PopOS, Endeavour, and Bazzite out of the box, but network is fully broken, LAN and WiFi.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Does network work on those distros but not on openSUSE, or network doesn’t work at all?

                    Maybe it’s a switch issue? Can you try sudo rfkill and see what’s the output?