The comedic timing on some of this video is impeccable.
The cops seemed to act pretty decent here but i don’t think the guy deserved to be tasered. He did come out treathening but lowered his fists rather quickly when he saw she was fine.
At least they didn’t arrest when they recognized he was being reasonable.
jesus christ. This woman… The cops show up at your door, and instead of copping to the fact that you’re an idiot who shouldn’t have called the cops, she instead escalates every sentence uttered with obstinate screaming. This woman is just so sure of her white female privilege, that nothing could possibly go wrong for her, that she tries all of this dumb shit. coming out yelling, saying she didn’t call (after calling them a second time lmao), giving a fake name, feigning suicidal thoughts, telling the cop she’s currently begging for leniency that all cops should be shot?? wtf??
This shows that she’s bought into the narrative that cops aren’t people, but a monolith. that they’re all bad and all out to hurt you and make your life worse, when in actuality, they got a random call from a woman who anyone would mistake for a potential domestic abuse victim, and they wanted to make sure she was OK. she returns their concern for her well-being, with as much ‘fuck-you energy’ she can muster.
The cops actually did a great job here. They used non lethal force on the random dude who just bursts out of the apartment, a few feet from them, in a fighting stance. Then homeboy chills out, is respectful and calm, and he’s left alone! meanwhile screammaster moron shakira off-her-meds just keeps yelling like she’s gonna karen her way out of a police encounter. Like, I’m not gonna lie, if I was a cop, I’d be super lenient on the people who make my job easy. While every karen and douchebag is gonna get ALL the shit thrown at them.
Ah yes, the ole “scream in the persons face” technique to get them to do what you want.
It all depends on who holds the power
What a shit show… Lunatic woman and a complete lack of deescalation skills from police. Who the fuck tasers people left and right?
“officers were promptly dispatched to the location traced through the ping of the females cell phone”
What?
911 dispatcher here
When you call 911 from a cell phone we get an approximate location from you phone.
This isnt a gps location from you phone, it’s based off of triangulation from nearby cell towers. Your phone sends a signal to the nearest towers and times how long it takes to get a reply, which can tell about how far from the tower you are, which basically draws a big circle around the tower, basically saying “they’re probably somewhere near the edge of this circle”
When it hits off of several towers, it narrows it down to “they’re probably somewhere in the area where these circles overlap” It then gives us some latitude and longitude coordinates and a confidence factor (which is basically "they’re within X meters of that point)
Depends on how many towers, signal strength, whether you’re inside, outside, surrounded by tall buildings, and probably crazy stuff like sunspot activity, weather, etc. that location can be pretty damn good or basically useless (I’ve seen it within 2 meters and I’ve seen it in the thousands of meters, usually we can get it down to within about 300 meters, which we consider to be a good enough confidence factor to work with if we have absolutely nothing else to go on.)
The term “ping” is pretty common in networking as basically a measure of the time it takes to send and receive a signal, it originally comes from sonar which uses an actual pinging noise and listens for the echo to bounce back. In our line of work, we tend to use ping to refer to the location data we get as “a ping” or as a verb to obtain that data “to ping a phone”
We can also request the phone company ping a phone for us if we’re no longer on the line with the caller.
Some combinations of phone hardware, cell network capabilities, and what kind of capabilities the dispatch center have do allow for actual GPS locations from the phone’s GPS hardware which is more accurate, but that’s not everywhere yet,and for the most part our bread and butter is still cell tower triangulation.
In simpler terms “Officers were sent to the place her phone her phone was traced to.” Or as a lot of my callers like to put it “they GPS’d her phone”
And on that note, if I can go off on a little tangent, I’d like to circle back to the confidence factor I mentioned earlier. That’s why we can’t “just gps your phone” and ask a few questions to make sure we’re sending help to the right place. Even if they had a very good ping, say 10 meters, that could still put the caller in maybe a dozen or so different apartments in that complex (and the computer is only ever about 90% sure of that ping, it hasn’t failed me dramatically yet, but the possibility is there that something isn’t working right somewhere between your phone and my computer) and if the ping drops on say a high rise office or apartment building, we only have latitude and longitude, we have no clue which floor you’re on, 10 meters could be dozens or hundreds of units across however many floors that would need to be checked.
Just a being pedantic and a stickler for detail. I’d expect modern tracking to use trilateration/multilateration.
It can be done in real-time and really needs 3 towers that have accurate time (GSM towers to my knowledge do use GPS derived accurate time). For this rather than direction/signal strength it uses the minute difference in arrival time for a signal between towers and works like an inverse GPS to calculate position.
Thanks very much for the detailed explanation! I guessed it had to be something like that, but I didn’t know 911 would have access to that and was surprised by the accuracy. I guess they might have heard them in the apartment, that’s why they were able to pin it down so quickly.
Using the number she phoned the police from, they tracked the phone.
I’m not certain that a tower ping is as accurate as “apartment 1, 42 wallaby way, Sydney”, but it would probably get them close to 42 wallaby way, Sydney.
While officers were en-route, the billing address could have been found for that number for a more precise location.
Perhaps there were other indicators from the phone call.
Perhaps this wasn’t the first call to emergency services, so that number has previous callout addresses. One of which aligned with the tower ping.
Or perhaps there were enough officers in the area to check everything quickly, and we are only seeing the footage of the successful response.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_tracking
Qualified services can get access to a phones position down to a 50m accuracy, depending on how much network infrastructure there is in the area. This doesn’t need any access/permission to/from the phone. It is done solely from the network infrastructure, and relies on the power/timing of signals to/from the phone. IE triangulation/trilateration.
The US treats this under the 4th amendment, however there are likely fast-paths for 911 call responses. Certainly, other countries waive similar privacy rights when there is an imminent threat to life.What what?
Gotta love how entitled women are in our society where she immediately goes to her usual fall-back positions of trying to get out of trouble. First comes lying, then crying, then yelling and getting angry. I am sure she has learned throughout the years that at least one of those will absolutely get her out of trouble because no one wants to put up with her shit for long. Then of course there is the larger issue of belittling the idea of domestic violence. She was trying to do this as a stupid joke, but there are countless women out there who will abuse the system with false claims and good luck trying to defend yourself against some hysterical woman telling a false claim of abuse all while she is crying crocodile tears.
I have no love for cops, but they handled this way better than anyone will give them credit for. This is why cops themselves should want to wear body cameras.
