The terms will be whatever eu says, will the uk be okay with that? They shit the bed on brexit.
The pound is not just a currency, it’s a symbol of British sovereignty and independence. Will the UK be willing to trade the queen’s face on their banknotes for Euro symbols?
You’re assuming we still even use cash at that point. I only have physical cash in my pocket once in a blue moon these days. I rarely even get my card out since contactless on phones came in. Therefore I prepose a compromise that Google wallet is updated to show a picture of Charles giving the thumbs up while playing the opening bars of Rule Britannia as it’s new payment confirmation.
Cash is just so inconvenient. Sure, it’s not so bad when you’re just dealing with notes, but as soon as you add coins it goes downhill fast.
That being said, I do get that cash makes it easier to think twice about purchases as you’re not just tapping your card like it’s a bongo drum.
I stopped using cash at the pub when our usual round started costing a non-integer number of pounds. Just don’t want to deal with the shrapnel.
I mean, I you have even the slightest degree of impule control and the ability to do maths in your head, it’s pretty easy to control your spending on card too.
It’s still necessary in lots of places though, for example village fetes etc where there are no reliable contactless systems. I’ve been to events where they have card readers paired with phones but the local masts get overwhelmed with the number of people and the phones can’t get a signal, even when they have brought in mobile masts for the occasion. So unfortunately you still need cash.
It’ll be the King’s face by then.
I mean Sweden joined in the 90s and still has their krona
I swear this guy comes out of the woodwork every two to three months, says something unhelpful to the wider Labour movement and then goes into hiding once again.
Look, what he did with Government in the 90s? Huge…but maybe it’s time Tony got put out to pasture.
Not anytime soon. Brexiters still blame the gov for not doing it right.
They still think 3 years of failing to negotiate a decent deal. Was the fault of to loud remainers encoraging the EU that we would quit if they were tough on us. Unfortunately any attempt to rejoin will face the same lies and bull the referendum did.
Any willingness the EU shows to allow even minimal acceptance of our previous benefits. Will encourage them to fight for the same bull they wanted before. All the advantages non of the costs.
We could have had EFTA, but after the referendum the media only focussed on the extremists from both sides. The Leavers who wanted to leave absolutely everything, and the Remainers who just cried about the result and demanded a second referendum.
Meanwhile the sensible majority, who were somewhere in the middle of those two extremes didn’t get a look in. So we ended up with a bit of nothing.
That, unfortunately, is how both sides want it. Those pro EU and those anti, neither want to compromise. The papers simply provide them with kindling.
No. Says EU.
Guy Vesthoven regulary makes public statements about us being welcome back any time.
> Guy Vesthoven
Do you mean Guy Verhofstadt? He’s an idiot that sold out his country years ago and subsequently ran to Europe to fill his pockets some more. He just wants a larger union so his pockets can get filled even faster.
Yeah, him, got one of thos foreign names ain’t he, don’t do them anymore in independent Britain. ;-)
haha yea it sounds foreign to me too and I’m a fellow countryman of his :D
He is the only one.
Honestly, I can’t see the EU making it easy for us, but why wouldn’t they want the world’s sixth biggest economy on the inside pissing out rather than vice versa?
Cause you behave like Hungary. We don’t need a third “Democracy” in eu that hates EU and fucks shit up.
In what way are we like Hungry, I’m eager to hear this.
Declining democracy, Propaganda against Germany and France, behavior in general (constantly bitching about everything and blaming all bad on others)
We literally just had three by-elections where the incumbent party lost two seats in areas they’ve held for years? The propaganda comes from the free press, not the government. People like Farage who are the worst for it aren’t anywhere near power. Would you prefer us not to have a free press?
Having to adopt the Euro might put paid to that idea.
Zero chance they rejoin without being granted the same exceptions they had previously, and equally zero chance of the EU allowing that to happen. Ya done fucked yourselves, UK.
Never wanted the exceptions to begin with, that was David Cameron’s thing.
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This is how I expect negotiations to go. We will be expected to be a full member. It is in the EU rules that all members must move towards being in the Euro and the Schengen area. There are no limitations set on how fast you move towards that, but it is there in the terms of membership. Poland being the slowest, I think. So there will be a commitment from the get go to be part of those. I would not be surprised if the EU demand a referendum to show just how much the UK wants to join. Remembering it was a referendum that drove us out of there.
For a minute I thought “our terms” you were British and thought we could get anywhere near the the sweet deal before. Margret Thatcher would be rolling in her grave for all we have up
Thatcher hated the EU though, and would likely have been a Brexiteer had she still been around.
Thatcher actively campaigned Remain in 1975 and was a key architect of the EU’s single market during the 1980s - arguably her greatest and most far-reaching political achievement.
Indeed. But she was a vehement opponent of the Maastricht Treaty, and opposed further EU integration the whole time she was in the House of Lords.
Her Bruges speech in 1988 made it very clear what she thought about moves towards a more federal Europe.
Is it fair to say that her views on the EU were more nuanced than your original comments suggested?
Not really. Because the EEC and the EU are very different entities.
Is one not a superset of the other? They are related, no?
It seems like a leap to believe that the architect of the single market would have supported the UK leaving the single market.
Not all Eurosceptics became Brexiters. David Cameron, George Osborne, William Hague, Philip Hammond - all genuine and vocal critics of political aspects of the EU who voted and campaigned Remain.
Who said anything about leaving the single market?
You don’t have to be in the EU to be in the single market.
Maybe out of fedral (but actually think she would have had the sense to stay in and block things from inside), but she built common market so even if left full.on.eu at least we would have maybe have Norway option rather than this shaft hard Brexit
Like apoting Euros and joining Schemgen.
UK could adopt Euros and join Schengen without being in the EU. It was the tories that fucked things up for us, not the brexit vote. Fuck the tories.
Brexit is on the Tories. It is part of their failure soup.
They could. But are they going to do it ?
The government doesn’t have the intelligence to even consider anything like that.
Can tony blair just please fuck off.
