• kevinsky@feddit.nl
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    Assuming AI is really going to take these jobs full stop, something else needs to happen outside of people reschooling themselves for blue collar work.

    I understand there might be a temporary uptick in required blue collar work as we prepare infrastructure to handle this bullshit but we definitely don’t need everybody that’s currently doing any kind of office work to be an pixie or pipe wrangler.

    There are no AI safe jobs in this context. There are only jobs AI can’t do yet. But they aren’t safe. The remaining people will flood whatever job market is left if something doesn’t change and then people absolutely won’t be making a 100k with no degree. Besides, if AI is really going to take most of the white collar jobs it’s only a matter of time before those robots get good enough to take blue collar jobs too.

    Also by telling everybody what to do (become a plumber or electrician in this case) you’re creating the same problem in the long term we have now with all the people that were told becoming a developer was the future and now find themselves with a crippling debt, meager income, and bleak prospects in the job market.

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    Does this idiot know what trades make? He’s trying to denigrate blue collar, but sparkies and plumbers make miiiint

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      Yeah, very rarely do tradespeople get rich, but most I know live very, very comfortably, don’t have insane hours or overtime, unless they provide emergency services, which usually pay insanely by the hour, have absolute job security. One of my son’s buddies is an Electrical engineer. He quit his job at a corpo, took the certification exam, and became an electrician. Makes way more that as an engineer, and has much higher QOL.

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      10 hours ago

      Not once some damn startup funded by people like this idiot start an app and through shady practices drive out all the independent tradesmen and make it a gig job.

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        they try, but all it means is that the shit workers end up blowing up houses and the good workers make some extra pocket money for christmas before fucking off back to their real employers.

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          Nah, that ain’t trying. When they actually try it’ll involve billions and billions of dollars in startup funding so that the companies can lose money for a good decade long enough to actually drive everyone else out of business. That there is amateur hour.

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            Might happen in the US. Won’t happen in any country where unions are functional.

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              Ain’t nobody safe from the horrors of capitalism. Ever. It can always be ripped away. If your instance is any indication you should know that better than any.

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    It annoys me to no end every single dumbass statement these idiot CEOs make is treated like news

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    PREDICTION: : There is going to be a harder push for the public to buy smart/AI glasses. Companies will train robots to do trade jobs by using data from smart glasses.

    No vacation/sick time to pay for. No benefits to pay for. Less work for HR. No unions. No liability. Lots of dreams to sell the public that never live up to the promises. <-- this is why people hate AI, along with the data centers.

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      12 hours ago

      Before that prisoners will be operating machinery remotely from their cells. Then they will reintroduce debtors prison.

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      We always needed to charge for automation. McDonalds kiosks should have to pay the tax as if they were hourly workers. They would still save on the remaining wages, the sick days and leave.

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        I didn’t even think about taxes. Good point. I bet companies would probably also get some sort of substantial tax write off. I don’t understand the end goal of AI and robots do everything.

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          Ideally automation makes it so we as a people need to work less, a universal basic income is generated through the taxation of automation.

          Realistically the powers that be, facists and pedos, will emable their peers to pay less for more until we battle for who gets employment.

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            UBI likely wont happen anytime soon, since poor people make better Conservative voters, and thats what american regime wants, easy to manipulate into low-wage only jobs, added bonus of being fodder for the armed forces and LEO.

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              America is a force for evil, I dont expect anything decent, groundbreaking, progressive or intelligent to come out of there.

              I am hopeful for countries that havemt been playing life on easy and still throwing their toys out of the pram

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    Jensen can go fuck himself. Gamers built nvidia and he fucks them over at the first opportunity.

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        i doubt it will, since he already bought years worth of AI chips, it would take him an extremely long time to pivot back, by then he would probably lose alot of value to nvidia,

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        As a gamer they already lost me years ago but I urge everyone else to let them fail as a general business memorial

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    There are going to be other jobs when the AI take over, you can easily learn to be a plumber while us CEOs pay you peanuts

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    Yeah no, LLM AI companies have ridden the AI will eliminate white collar jobs trope to push sky high valuations.

    You don’t get to change the narrative this deep in the bubble.

    While LLM AI is useful, it won’t replace all white collar jobs. The cost of using AI to replace existing jobs is starting to hit the P&Ls of most major users and it’s too expensive even with the subsidized services these LLM AI companies are offering.

    The kicker is if anyone does ever create general AI intelligence it’s going to be controversial. A general AI will basically be a conscious thinking entity. To force it to perform functions is basically enslaving a conscious thinking entity. I’m sure big business will have no problem with legalized slavery. But is that something people will tolerate once it becomes known? I’m sure there will be resistance to it.

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      indirectly they are eliminating, suppressing jobs via job sites, the employers are using Ai to screen out even more applicants than before, more than like AI will survive as a resume/cv screening tool in the end , albeit much smaller than it is now eventually, because they would use expensive software to do it, now with ai can just eliminate large batches of resume faster.

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      He is desperately rhetorically flailing, trying to pitch the idea that temporary demand in construction of data centers = job creation.

      Despite that the entire point of an AI data center is to automate away 100x to 100,000x as many jobs, permanently, as will actually exist for maybe 18 months, to build the thing.

      Its a nakedly bad faith line of bullshit, literally insultingly stupid to anyone that’s taken a year of macro econ.

      Even if you build the datacenters, … the amount of power needed for them would be roughly equivalent to building the entire electrical power infrastructure of Germany, and that would need to be done in 18 months.

      Conpletely impossible, that’s like 10 years of the world’s current production rate of power transformers, in 18 months.

      These guys would need a top down command economy and 5 year plans to do this, and they do not have that, so they’re basically just pretending they do. When it becomes evident that they were bullshitting, they’ll try to say ‘well thats how things should have been the whole time, with me in charge of everything!’

      Delusional.

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          What do you mean ‘deal with Baulmol’s cost disease’?

          You mean general, broad inflation, right?

          You’re worried that non-automatable low wages jobs will continue to be non-automatable low wage jobs, but slightly less low wage?

          You’re worried that jobs tend to need to be done by people who can afford to be alive?