• folaht@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    Russia used the same tactic as Israel to invade.

    No they didn’t.
    Israel used an attack on Israel from occupied territory as an excuse to do a full-scale genocide.

    Russia went to Kiev to demand Zelensky to lay down arms in the Donbass,
    end the civil war and allow Donbass separation from a military couped Ukraine.
    If not, there Russia would continue with its special military operation
    and demand all historic Russian Oblasts granted to Ukraine by Russia,
    back to Russia.

    it is always the same excuse for invaders create a fake eminent threat

    No, one was about dealing with a terrorist threat
    by attempting to genocide multiple civilizations,
    the other acts accordingly after one side,
    a Ukranian puppet leader
    that takes direct orders from the US, where he breaks all treaties
    and a US who literally tells Russia
    “we’re gonna do whatever we want,
    place weapons wherever we want,
    kill whomever we want,
    break every treaty we want,
    and you’re not going to do anything about it,
    deal with it”.

    “A civilization is going to die tonight”
    after a country defends its own country
    is what the US is all about.

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      23 hours ago

      Putin talks about how Ukraine is an artificial state and that it is russian. Israel claim that Palestinians are Arab colonizer and that Palestine and Palestinians never existed . They are the same using national security pretense to invade. Putin is a great friend of israel. The usa imperialist reason to support Ukraine do not change the fact that Russia is a real threat to Ukraine

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        Both are true and both Palestine and Ukraine needed to decrease their size.
        Around half for Palestine compared to their 1945 borders
        and around half for Ukraine to Russia,
        further land can be claimed by Hungary, Slovakia and Poland.

        The difference is is that for Russia

        1. Russians are already living in Ukraine because their parents/grandparents never left.
        2. They wanted to vote to separate from Ukraine in Donbass but were shot at the voting booth, even killed.
        3. Russia was open to discuss where the new borders would stand, but Ukraine demanded Crimea back where 90+% of the people voted to leave Ukraine.

        Israel on the other hand

        1. It’s all Euro-import.
        2. No one gets to vote and they kill everyone not Israeli and bulldoze/bomb their homes. They kill every man, woman and child. Israel genocides like Nazi Germany, except worse, because they kill everyone of every country it has so far invaded.
        3. Israel demands the entire Middle East. Multiple Arab nations that have no Israeli history whatsoever.