• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    Of course, Americans would love to turn Taiwan into another Ukraine, but I doubt you’ll get your ghoulish wish in the end.

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      Taiwan doesn’t want China to invade, so they buy weapons from the US and other countries, and also have developed domestic missiles to strike at Chinese cities in case of invasion.

      Don’t know what to tell you.

      If anything Ukraine has hardened the Taiwanese stance, and showed them what an ounce of prevention is worth. I expect the next order of weapons to be even larger, because nobody actually wants another Ukraine.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan

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        If you think Taiwan has any chance of doing anything in a war scenario you are out high with copium in the stratosphere and you are becoming delirious, it would be one of the shortest wars of all time. Simply proposing this scenario is a clear indication of how deep rooted the industrial military complex propaganda of the US has invaded people in the first world. Hope the collapse of your empire doesn’t hurt too much on your privileged ego.

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          Taiwan has at least 1 anti ship missile for every Chinese vessel and 1 anti air missile for every Chinese aircraft, and this just from US-supplied weaponry(I encourage you to read the Wikipedia article above). Taiwan also has hundreds of domestic missiles that can hit as far as Wuhan, and at least 50(and more coming) that can hit Beijing.

          You say Taiwan can’t do anything in a war, but this certainly seems like a lot of something. Propaganda or no, things tend to explode when you shoot missiles at them.

          That said, certainly China would eventually succeed in invading Taiwan(barring foreign intervention), however China knows the cost of invasion and is not willing to pay it, so Taiwan keeps buying more weapons to ensure the price remains high for China.

          Were it not the case, China would have invaded by now.

          So instead China is doing slow diplomacy and hoping sentiment in the Taiwanese govt and people trend towards unification.

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            There was recently a “scholar” who said that sacrificing 10% of the population for the war to unify Taiwan is nothing in the grand scheme of things, and with a bit of education, all the younger generation would agree to fight. News report

            You can imagine how well this went behind the Great Firewall lol.

            Keep in mind that China has no freedom of speech. You cannot criticize the government nor say anything that would put them in a bad light if it goes public to the west. That’s why the #GreatTranslationMovement was so successful when it first started. So with a person this high profile being able to speak his mind freely, means he likely has some kind of backing by the government, which means they support his stance.

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              1 year ago

              Wow what a wild take. I wonder if that guy took into account the additional losses from potential Indian or Vietnamese advances. Probably others that would like to take some “disputed” land back.

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        We’ll just wait and see what happens in the next election in Taiwan won’t we. DPP isn’t exactly popular last I checked, and once US loses its puppet regime then the whole gig is up.

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          once US loses its puppet regime then the whole gig is up

          Were you born yesterday or something? DPP and KMT alternate the presidency like musical chairs, similar to the republicans vs democrats in the US. At least people in Taiwan can vote lol. That’s more than I can say about their angry neighbour. Sorry to be thriving I guess, I hope one day you’ll get the help you need and finally get over the fact that most Taiwanese people prefer freedom ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            >Company owns the same 2 brands of shit flavoured soda
            >You can choose between donkey's diarrhea and cow's bloody fecal matter

            >Freedom

            Being able to choose between two parties that represent the same group of people is not freedom, is just theatrics so that incredulous people like you can whine when people decide they don’t want to do things as white western people told them to.

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          I like how you refer to the fact most Taiwanese people want to either retain the current situation or gain further independence as a “gig”. Strong tankie vibes.

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            I mean, just go look at everyone of his posts, comments, and profile pic. Definite tankie

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            I like you pretend to speak for Taiwanese people without having a clue about internal politics of Taiwan and the effect of influence US there via things like NED. 🤡

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                1 year ago

                What does that prove exactly, there are obviously lots of people in Taiwan who simp the west. US spent vast amounts of money cultivating them.

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                  It’s true that Taiwan is full of burger simps, but they’re a lot easier for libs to believe than any amount of evidence. Anecdotes aren’t evidence, but they have a way of making people their better than evidence.

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                    Liberalism is basically a proselytizing religion at this point. These people are convinced that their way of life is the one true way, and everyone in the world must be forcibly converted to it.

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              I’m just telling you what polls of the Taiwanese population are indicating, however you don’t seem at all interested in that, because you’d rather send in the tanks.

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                The polls of the Taiwanese population are indicating that US backed DPP is crashing while KMT that wants to repatriate is polling high, however you don’t seem at all interested in that, because you’re a shill for the empire.

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                  Check again, genius. Also, here’s a poll stating that the majority of Taiwanese are against the “one China two policy” and are in favor of the status quo, meaning that KMT approval doesn’t necessarily mean supporting repatriating.

                  Also, I don’t understand why you would call the US an empire, while also shilling for the actual emperor who is now serving his third term, which btw was originally against their own constitution.

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                    Well I guess we’ll just see what happens when KMT gets into power won’t we genius. Meanwhile, wait till you find out how long people like Merkel have been in power. I guess using your galaxy brain logic, Germany is a dictatorship. 😂

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      Turn Taiwan into another Ukraine as if it’s the fault of the US that Russia invaded them (and by extension would be the fault of the US if China invaded Taiwan)? What a strange position to have…

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        It’s pretty incredible to see that grown ass adults can’t understand the root causes that created the conditions for the war in Ukraine. It’s not like countless western academics and politicians have warned for decades that NATO expansion east would eventually lead to a war or anything.

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      I’m sure that Taiwanese people all want to be under CCP’s rule instead, right? After imperialist Japanese colonisation, KMT dictatorship, and the fight for democracy, surely the majority would want to give that all up in exchange for dictatorship. That makes so much sense!