• Aqarius@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    And you’ve failed to read my first post: the majority are, but a third are not.

    • WR5@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Where are you citing a third? Maybe that’s where the misunderstanding lies.

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        19 hours ago

        83% want it, “every other” (50%) would pay, 83-50=33, 33% (a third) want it, but aren’t willing to pay to get it.

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              18 hours ago

              The title is “one in two would pay MORE” and “83% want an alternative.”

              No one is saying that the 33% difference don’t want to pay. You are claiming that. You prove it.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Un Français sur deux serait prêt à payer plus cher pour une alternative souveraine

                  près d’un Français sur deux se dit désormais prêt à payer un peu plus cher

                  83% des Français pensent que l’UE devrait réduire ses dépendances numériques vis-à-vis des pays tiers

                  le marché mondial du cloud reste très largement dominé par des acteurs américains : AWS, Microsoft Azure et Google Cloud en tête

                  49% des sondés se déclarent prêts à basculer vers un fournisseur de services numériques basé en Europe, même si cela coûte un peu plus cher

                  Nuance à ne pas effacer : le sondage précise que le surcoût envisagé reste léger, pas un chèque en blanc, et il s’agit d’une intention déclarée, pas forcément d’un comportement d’achat. C’est quand même le genre de chiffre que les institutions européennes vont citer dans leurs discours pendant la prochaine décennie.

                  By the way, “basculer vers un fournisseur” does explicitly mean they currently pay for something, but that they’re ready to move to something else. And “surcout” does explicitly mean an increase of cost compared to the cost they currently pay. And so does “payer plus cher” (the “pay MORE” that I’ve been underlining for you over and over since the start).

                  I don’t understand how you could possibly be dumb enough to read this any other way.

                  I don’t know what the fuck you think you’re trying to do here.

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                    17 hours ago

                    Excellent, you’re making an effort now! Progress! Now, let’s go and fix what’s actually wrong. At the start, we said:

                    …So, a full third want a domestic alternative, but not to pay for it?

                    Pay more

                    I mean, yes, that’s what I said, but […]

                    And then I clarify:

                    […] not willing to pay for a service to be domestic

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                    […] They are willing to pay for the service itself, but not to have it be domestic

                    So, not that they’re not willing to pay at all, but that, in their mind, kicking out the Yanks is a “nice to have”, not an actual selling point they would pay for specifically. Once again, to clarify, the “it” in “pay for it” is specifically the local nature of the service, not the service itself.

                    Then, you slide in with “I don’t understand why you think it should be more expensive if it’s locally made.”, and I genuinely don’t know where you got that from. I’m not saying it should, or even would cost more, I’m saying that I’m actually not saying anything, the article is saying that if it did, 50% (well, 51%) would not pay for it, and presumably opt for a cheaper, foreign option. And because this is the conversation it is, I am hereby clarifying that “cheaper” can also mean “free”.

                    I don’t understand how you could possibly be dumb enough to read this any other way.

                    Well, my French may be exceedingly rusty, but the thing I’d read here is that “surcout”, “plus cher”, and “basculer vers un fournisseur” all refer to the 49% who would pay. The 83% response is to the question about the EU.