I recently made an account on Beehaw because I’ve been having pleasant interactions with the instance from my lemm.ee account. Some good threads, seemed like a progressive space. So I went back to the philosophy documents and read them again, liked most of what I saw (again) and signed up for an account today. Decided to break in my new account by browsing the top posts of the last month. Several of them were threads I recognised and had commented in, and felt like revisiting. Except my comments weren’t there. When I got to a comment I very specifically remember replying to (someone asked what’s up with HBomber and James Somerton), and couldn’t find my comment, I decided to check the modlog.

I’m banned. I’ve been talking into an empty void for 4 months. I was banned for being in bad faith. And one of my comments was removed by an admin, because I told people to assume good faith and apparently that’s not nice.

This doesn’t align at all with the documents I’ve been reading today. The ones about assuming good faith, and about giving people chances to clarify, and about how banning is a last resort only for obvious trolls. When I came to this community 4 months ago to make a post about fediverse drama, I wasn’t interested in active participation in the community, and I didn’t make that post with that in mind. I understand how that might not fit the desires of the community here. But I didn’t make that post in bad faith. I, and whoever wrote those pages on the philosophy of Beehaw, wanted the same thing back then. To create a corner of the internet free of hate speech and full of kindness. Now? I’m jaded and beaten. I don’t want to create a kind community anymore, I want to find one. I’ve given up on that ambition. So that’s why I reread the updated documents with hope. Why I created an account. And why I want to know whether beehaw.org is actually the website I read about in those documents. Because those modlogs say the opposite of what those documents said. If I don’t fit in here, if the ideals I thought I saw aren’t present, I’d like to find out quickly.

Should I still hope?

  • PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    Hey i think you can not believe in something, and also think the person with the belief is acting wrongly or has bad or irresponsible takes about their belief, without using the validity of that belief itself as a basis for discrediting or putting down the person in a disagreement. Does that make sense? I think you can be totally free to find someone annoying or disagree with their ideas, and even privately think something is silly, without using someone’s spiritual or religious belief as the thing that is the problem you have with them. Demanding evidence or proof of someone’s religion or asking someone to justify what they believe spiritually or explain to your satisfaction why it’s not evil/dangerous/bad/fake is almost always trolling and can verge on bullying. But you can disagree with someone without doing that. It’s easy.