seen a bunch of people just hating on the Catholic church and even catholics for no logical reason at all

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    Mostly the child rape, but also the cover-up of the child rape. Oh, and the secret relocation of the child rapists to new places so they could continue raping children.

    Also the genocide, a history of repressing the poor, the misogyny, Indulgences, the whole Crusades thing, the Spanish inquisition, the coalition with Hitler, the extremely problematic wealth of the Vatican, the homophobia, and the child rape.

    Did I mention the child rape?

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      the coverups are a diocesan problem within the US not the vatican level and it has been addressed and the clergy punished

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        So that just leaves the genocide, a history of repressing the poor, the misogyny, Indulgences, the whole Crusades thing, the Spanish inquisition, the coalition with Hitler, the extremely problematic wealth of the Vatican, the homophobia, and the child rape.

        … Because the fact that they admitted it after years of covering it up doesn’t make up for it.

        Also, read the last sentence in the graphics you posted.

        Aside from that, stellar argument🤣

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          yes, numerous US bishops did that, thats why the pope brought the USCCB to the Vatican and most american Bishops, its a diocesan problem

          The church hasnt repressed the poor, and the hitler thing was because the vatican is literally SURROUNDED IN MUSSOLINI, the Pope secretly helped Jewish families around Europe due to the Church’s reach

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            So I started reading this post since I figured it would have some interesting comments but its becoming apparent that there is some sort of ulterior motive here for the OP. I suppose it should have been obvious this was an exercise in bad faith since their initial comment includes, “…for no logical reason at all”. But congratulations on getting some decent engagement on this platform.

            OPs basic question is being answered with valid points and their responses indicate that they are just reacting defensively and trying to explain away or excuse all of the horrific things the Catholic Church is provably responsible for. As for me, I wouldn’t trust my kid with any religious organization because I think they all have a pedo problem and can’t keep their hands off of children; their minds or their bodies…just look who keeps getting convicted of these crimes and I can assure you it isn’t the atheists people should be worried about.

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    Religion is a political tool made to opress the masses. Catholicism is particularly harmful for sanctifying asceticism.

    They sell this backward idea where suffering and misery is glorified while engaging in pleasure, principally sexual please, is seen as sinful and impure.

    It keeps people from raising against their masters and constantly feeling guilty about themselves for craving sexual satisfaction.

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        It is. Some less some more. Religion is a strong tool to drive a cause. Look at the USA, at India, Afghanistan and the entire middle east. From egypt to isreal to iran.

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          centralizing “religion” as one universal thing, check

          america, india, the middle eastern nations and afghanistan are not Catholic nations

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        I was raised in a catholic family, had church school every Sunday, wanted to be a monk. All until I reached the age of reason, I hope you will as well

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          oh boy here we go

          had little to no spiritual guidance as a kid with parents that barely understood the basics of Christianity, and never went to sunday school at all and most of the adults around me didnt even WANT to speak about anything “religious”, have been persecuted for my faith multiple times

          and what order did you want to join?