So that just leaves the genocide, a history of repressing the poor, the misogyny, Indulgences, the whole Crusades thing, the Spanish inquisition, the coalition with Hitler, the extremely problematic wealth of the Vatican, the homophobia, and the child rape.
… Because the fact that they admitted it after years of covering it up doesn’t make up for it.
Also, read the last sentence in the graphics you posted.
yes, numerous US bishops did that, thats why the pope brought the USCCB to the Vatican and most american Bishops, its a diocesan problem
The church hasnt repressed the poor, and the hitler thing was because the vatican is literally SURROUNDED IN MUSSOLINI, the Pope secretly helped Jewish families around Europe due to the Church’s reach
So I started reading this post since I figured it would have some interesting comments but its becoming apparent that there is some sort of ulterior motive here for the OP. I suppose it should have been obvious this was an exercise in bad faith since their initial comment includes, “…for no logical reason at all”. But congratulations on getting some decent engagement on this platform.
OPs basic question is being answered with valid points and their responses indicate that they are just reacting defensively and trying to explain away or excuse all of the horrific things the Catholic Church is provably responsible for. As for me, I wouldn’t trust my kid with any religious organization because I think they all have a pedo problem and can’t keep their hands off of children; their minds or their bodies…just look who keeps getting convicted of these crimes and I can assure you it isn’t the atheists people should be worried about.
the coverups are a diocesan problem within the US not the vatican level and it has been addressed and the clergy punished
So that just leaves the genocide, a history of repressing the poor, the misogyny, Indulgences, the whole Crusades thing, the Spanish inquisition, the coalition with Hitler, the extremely problematic wealth of the Vatican, the homophobia, and the child rape.
… Because the fact that they admitted it after years of covering it up doesn’t make up for it.
Also, read the last sentence in the graphics you posted.
Aside from that, stellar argument🤣
yes, numerous US bishops did that, thats why the pope brought the USCCB to the Vatican and most american Bishops, its a diocesan problem
The church hasnt repressed the poor, and the hitler thing was because the vatican is literally SURROUNDED IN MUSSOLINI, the Pope secretly helped Jewish families around Europe due to the Church’s reach
So I started reading this post since I figured it would have some interesting comments but its becoming apparent that there is some sort of ulterior motive here for the OP. I suppose it should have been obvious this was an exercise in bad faith since their initial comment includes, “…for no logical reason at all”. But congratulations on getting some decent engagement on this platform.
OPs basic question is being answered with valid points and their responses indicate that they are just reacting defensively and trying to explain away or excuse all of the horrific things the Catholic Church is provably responsible for. As for me, I wouldn’t trust my kid with any religious organization because I think they all have a pedo problem and can’t keep their hands off of children; their minds or their bodies…just look who keeps getting convicted of these crimes and I can assure you it isn’t the atheists people should be worried about.
Also numerous Australian, Canadian, Mexican, South American, Asian, Irish, Polish, Norwegian, other European, etc priests and bishops did that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
I read the page
its mostly american dioceses and there will always be bad apples, they should be excommunicated
And what is that saying about what one bad apple does to the whole bunch?
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